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8 hours ago, pantherj said:

We could have CMC and DJ Moore on this team right now and still have traded for Young. That is the sickening part. We lost a HoF type RB and that didn't have to happen to move up for Young. Don't trade CMC to SF, but do trade Burns to the Rams. Don't trade DJ to the Bears, offer other players. They would have taken a different deal. We were already offering a fantastic deal, and if the Bears don't want a player, then offer another future pick. Fitt DOES NOT know what he's doing.

CMC didn't want to be here....he sat his way out of Carolina.  You don't see him missing an entire season for San Fran do you?

Fug CMC.

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As for Burns, tag him if he doesn't want to negotiate.  If he doesn't sign he can sit at home and we retain his rights.

Teams don't look kindly on the type of player who will sit out and pout over a fair deal.  He'll have to come back after not playing and not get paid as much on a "prove it" deal and I have doubts unless he is opposite a real disruptive DE that he won't be able to generate $30M+ contract #s.

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Bring him into the office and lay this on the table: One year contract at $11 million. Sign it and we try to trade you. You get a prove it year with a good paycheck somewhere with a chance to extend that contract there if you play up to their wants. If not, just let him go and accept the third round compensatory pick and wish him the best.

 

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10 hours ago, Ricky Prickles said:

Tag and trade his ass. If we can't get a trade partner then let him walk and get a compensatory. Should have traded him to the Rams when we had the chance but hindsight is 20/20. I can definitely say I don't feel he is worth some big ass contract.

There is nothing hindsight about “should have traded him to the Rams.” Many on this board were screaming that exact sentiment at the time. 

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10 hours ago, Ricky Prickles said:

Tag and trade his ass. If we can't get a trade partner then let him walk and get a compensatory. Should have traded him to the Rams when we had the chance but hindsight is 20/20. I can definitely say I don't feel he is worth some big ass contract.

No hindsight necessary - it was obvious then and there that it was an absolute windfall for a second- or third-tier player like Burns. 

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Counter point:  How are DJ Moore and CMC doing outside of Carolina?  What did we do with the assets we got from them?

While I don't want to pay Burns $30+ million a year, let's be careful what we wish for.  Burns put out 8 sacks on a team that NEVER led.  He never got to pin his ears back.  His next best edge rusher this season was YGM.  

While Burns wasn't all world, he was the only remotely consistent pass rusher we have.  Luvu has been a good interior pass rusher, but that was not his primary job this season.

This entire season was a giant TURD of a season.  No one is immune from the smell.  But if we trade Burns or let him walk, don't be surprised if he plays well else where.  We keep trading away great talent and we have a 2~15 record to show for it...  Maybe, just maybe we try keeping a talented player.

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2 hours ago, d-dave said:

Counter point:  How are DJ Moore and CMC doing outside of Carolina?  What did we do with the assets we got from them?

While I don't want to pay Burns $30+ million a year, let's be careful what we wish for.  Burns put out 8 sacks on a team that NEVER led.  He never got to pin his ears back.  His next best edge rusher this season was YGM.  

While Burns wasn't all world, he was the only remotely consistent pass rusher we have.  Luvu has been a good interior pass rusher, but that was not his primary job this season.

This entire season was a giant TURD of a season.  No one is immune from the smell.  But if we trade Burns or let him walk, don't be surprised if he plays well else where.  We keep trading away great talent and we have a 2~15 record to show for it...  Maybe, just maybe we try keeping a talented player.

He doesn't earn his salary here. I'm not a fan of paying an unearned contract to a player to prevent them from possibly earning it somewhere else.  If he's not earning his current contract here there's absolutely no reason to give him a raise.

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