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Just now, rayzor said:

One of the top 5 mistakes we made last off-season was not trading him for 2 first rounders.

It was money in our hand and we got cocky.

We didn't make the trades we should've made and made all the ones we shouldn't have.  

 

No trade down in 2021 from #8 with teams calling (could've gained a 1st)

No Burns trade at one of the highest market non-QB values you'll find  (2 firsts)

Didn't play hardball in CMC's deal with multiple teams calling

Traded for Sam Darnold (gave up a 2nd, 4th and 5th)

Traded for CJ Henderson (gave up a third)

Traded for Matt Corral (gave up an extra 3rd)

Traded for Brandon Smith (gave up a higher pick package)

Traded for #1 Overall (gave up DJ Moore and a boatload)

Traded up for DJ Johnson..next picks proceeded to be Achane, Diaby and Spears lol

 

Fail after fail after fail after fail after fail

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

We didn't make the trades we should've made and made all the ones we shouldn't have.  

 

No trade down in 2021 from #8 with teams calling (could've gained a 1st)

No Burns trade at one of the highest market non-QB values you'll find  (2 firsts)

Didn't play hardball in CMC's deal with multiple teams calling

Traded for Sam Darnold (gave up a 2nd, 4th and 5th)

Traded for CJ Henderson (gave up a third)

Traded for Matt Corral (gave up an extra 3rd)

Traded for Brandon Smith (gave up a higher pick package)

Traded for #1 Overall (gave up DJ Moore and a boatload)

Traded up for DJ Johnson..next picks proceeded to be Achane, Diaby and Spears lol

 

Fail after fail after fail after fail after fail

 

 

I’d throw cutting Marquan McCall in there too. You’re telling me he couldn’t have contributed to this defense?

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5 minutes ago, pdub0702 said:

Position + Historical output.

 

Franchise tag him and trade him to a team willing to offload a first because their close to contending 

His historical output is hitting double digit sacks once in his career 

he will be going into year 6 with a team that doesn’t want to pay him.  Burns has 2nd round pick written all over him and will represent one of the biggest fumbles of all time by our front office. 

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Just now, pdub0702 said:

Position + Historical output.

 

Franchise tag him and trade him to a team willing to offload a first because their close to contending 

  The last big DE deal was Sweat and he only brought a 2nd. Without the contract uncertainty(because he agreed to it first) and not being a liability on at least 40% of his snaps. Now Burns doesn’t even excel in his biggest strength with a DT that had a great year. 
 

    You have to tag him which will tie up 23M in cap room whether he signs or not. Which he won’t. He would have to agree with a new team on a contract before he would sign. Why would a team give him a lot more that and give up a first when he wouldn’t be worth it if he was a FA? Knowing he is just handcuffing the cap and how much you want him gone. Why didn’t a contender come get him this year when his salary was still at 16M? 

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2 minutes ago, CRA said:

His historical output is hitting double digit sacks once in his career 

he will be going into year 6 with a team that doesn’t want to pay him.  Burns has 2nd round pick written all over him and will represent one of the biggest fumbles of all time by our front office. 

Far from correct. He fell to us when drafted. He’s a very good DE..which someone will fall in love with 

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28 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

We didn't make the trades we should've made and made all the ones we shouldn't have.  

 

No trade down in 2021 from #8 with teams calling (could've gained a 1st)

No Burns trade at one of the highest market non-QB values you'll find  (2 firsts)

Didn't play hardball in CMC's deal with multiple teams calling

Traded for Sam Darnold (gave up a 2nd, 4th and 5th)

Traded for CJ Henderson (gave up a third)

Traded for Matt Corral (gave up an extra 3rd)

Traded for Brandon Smith (gave up a higher pick package)

Traded for #1 Overall (gave up DJ Moore and a boatload)

Traded up for DJ Johnson..next picks proceeded to be Achane, Diaby and Spears lol

 

Fail after fail after fail after fail after fail

 

 

You missed not trading DJ Moore last year for pick 15 instead of throwing him in on Young’s deal. Could have drafted Jaxon S-N, Addison or Flowers and at least had a cheap WR for a few years. Then we might have traded Burns to move up for Young instead and just maybe not give up pick #1 overall since Burns was worth 2 1sts and a 2nd compared to a 1st for Moore.

Also, trading CMC for 5% of the Young deal and DJ Johnson seems like a comically bad trade.

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