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Panthers Unlikely to Pursue Harbaugh


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2 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

I don't think the football people should be tied too closely to Bryce, either, but I do think it may be in the team's longterm interest to skip investing in a new QB this offseason, and riding with what we have, probably giving BY half a season or so while we develop the rest of the team. We already have Dalton on contract for next year anyway, so if BY flames out as it seems is likely, we've got a good vet to man the ship.  But Tepper needs to also know this is the plan and not clean house right away, because it'll take time.

The one thing I DON'T want them to do is to trade more assets for another QB... And I feel like most of the options that'll be realistically available to us in FA will not be very good...

IMO, the best path forward is to bring in someone to legitimately push Bryce while putting the best team around them that we can. Whether Bryce works out or not provide the best path forward. But I don't think you can just hand Bryce the job again. Not after this disaster. There has to be a legit competition. If that's with Dalton honestly I'm fine with that. But you have to force Bryce to win a competition to get team bye in which means you also have to be willing to allow him to potentially lose that competition.

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2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

IMO, the best path forward is to bring in someone to legitimately push Bryce while putting the best team around them that we can. Whether Bryce works out or not provide the best path forward. But I don't think you can just hand Bryce the job again. Not after this disaster. There has to be a legit competition. If that's with Dalton honestly I'm fine with that. But you have to force Bryce to win a competition to get team bye in which means you also have to be willing to allow him to potentially lose that competition.

Harbaugh is just the man to do this... but homer simpson will have to admit some kind of defeat...not sure that will happen... if you want to turn this team around....Harbaugh will at least make us respectable in two years.... but dick pie has to blab his billions into the equation with his ego.... we're gonna stank for years if he doesn't change.  I guarantee hes trying to fast track the coach selection again... cause hes a dumbazz.

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30 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

No chance he accepts that deal. It includes a no NFL clause. The removes all ability to get consistent pay raises. 

Probably not, but it definitely establishes the base for his services. After getting burned by Rhule and Reich, you gotta think he's gonna be gunshy about needing to pay 15m or more per season guaranteed. 

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5 hours ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Probably not, but it definitely establishes the base for his services. After getting burned by Rhule and Reich, you gotta think he's gonna be gunshy about needing to pay 15m or more per season guaranteed. 

He'd pay whatever he needed too to get the guy he wants.  Rhule or Reich be damned.. he MAY go about vetting coaches differently but if it comes down to money he'll shell out whatever he needs to get the deal done.

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    • Agreed. A healthy bit from column A (stats) and column B (film) paints the most accurate picture, which is currently that Bryce is not performing up to the standard a 1st round QB (let alone drafted #1 overall) is expected to (statistically). When we dig into the film to see why, we see that while he's having his struggles (not stepping up in the pocket, bailing out early, hesitating on some throws, making occasional bad reads, etc) the team that surrounded him last season was simply awful. Bottom 5 defense, bottom 5 OL, bottom 5 weapons... but somehow one player has to overcome ALL of that in their rookie season? Yeesh... Taking this season into consideration, he started where he left off last season and was rightfully benched. Since starting again, the team has gotten on its first winning streak in a few years and he's made good plays to keep them in the game. Is he lighting it up? Nah... but he is beginning to show the reason so many draftniks had him as QB1a for his class. Re: what the team does next season... who friggin knows anymore at this point T_T. Resign Dalton? Sign Jones? Draft somebody in the mid-to-late rounds? Go with another UFA? Maybe grab an FA that can compete with Bryce for the starting position and draft a rookie to sit and develop? Might be best of both worlds for the team, but ugh... not a fun position to still be in with question marks throughout the position group.
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    • Dalton is too close to starting right now. If it hadn't been for a car accident, he still would be. Switching Dalton for Jones does nothing except reduce the backup's age by a decade. One is in his NFL prime, the other is almost in his NFL grave. Not a horrible move if you're trying to improve the team. We've got to get better as a team and a lateral move like that would improve the team. The problem isn't that he's close to starting. The problem is we have a GM that signed off on BY and didn't bring in any serious QB competition for camp, a HC that said yeah, he's my guy until BY poo the bed so bad he couldn't start him, and an offense that's limited because BY can't make all the throws a normal NFL QB can.  The problem isn't that Jones could be an improvement as a backup QB. The problem is he could be better than our "franchise" QB. 
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