Dan Quinn- Meet the Candidate- Part 5 of 12

[kungfoodude]

Bumping a year old thread to brag about comments that don't really even match what you are attempting is micropenis energy to the nth degree.

[X-Clown]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

Bumping a year old thread to brag about comments that don't really even match what you are attempting is micropenis energy to the nth degree.

This, Then to double down on a hot take about Carr after two games…now all Saints fans would give their left nut to cut him this offseason, but will cost them 50 million dollars in dead cap room, and he refuses to take a pay cut. 

[45catfan]

It does show that "retreads" are not all that bad.  It depends who the retread is.  If for whatever reason Canales doesn't work out, there will be people writing off any dude with previous HC experience outright, which is stupid.

[ProcessBlue2]

[ProcessBlue2]

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

Bumping a year old thread to brag about comments that don't really even match what you are attempting is micropenis energy to the nth degree.

We can't all be perfect you know.

[Jackie Lee]

2 hours ago, OldhamA said:

Who is Alex Bryant and does he know what our roster looked like at the  start of this year?

Who believed in the Texans roster two offseasons ago?

[WhoKnows]

1 hour ago, 45catfan said:

It does show that "retreads" are not all that bad.  It depends who the retread is.  If for whatever reason Canales doesn't work out, there will be people writing off any dude with previous HC experience outright, which is stupid.

More importantly, it depends on who the retread’s QB is. Those dimes dropped were all Daniels. The OC, HC and QB coach, etc. had no impact on Daniels having his arm talent and skills. Coaches can help mold them but sometimes you’ve got a QB who transcends everything. McDermott didn’t make Allen and Reid couldn’t get all the way with Smith like he did with Mahomes.

[WhoKnows]

17 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

Who believed in the Texans roster two offseasons ago?

The Texans also had an abundance of draft picks. Remember they drafted Will Anderson one pick after Stroud. Collins wasn’t much in his 2 seasons prior to Stroud as Davis Mills was terrible. Tank Dell was drafted the same year as Stroud.

The Texans draft 7 2024 starters in 2023 and 2024. Add in Nico Collins breakout and Hunter as a defensive stud and you’ve got the roster they have today. Heck, they’ve got multiple starters from 2022 including another probowler.

Our drafting looks like poo from 2018-2024 compared to that even with Young looking so much better. They drafted three pro bowlers at the key positions in 2022-2023. I keep saying that our drafting has got to get to another level. Some people think Morgan did a great job this year and someone even posted that even if Coker is a WR3 that it’s a great result as a UDFA. That’s BS. Coker needs to be a good WR2 at worst to make up for missing on first and second rounders at WR for years.

Just look at the talent and depth the Texans got in the 2021-2024 drafts to see how much we need to do to really be playoff competitive year in and year out. The Texans look like they are there and a large part of that is “tanking” while starting Mills and trading Watson while he was worth something. We didn’t do that so we need to actually hit (XL and Brooks don’t count as a hit draft) on every draft while Young is still on a rookie deal.

[mav1234]

11 minutes ago, WhoKnows said:

The Texans also had an abundance of draft picks. Remember they drafted Will Anderson one pick after Stroud. Collins wasn’t much in his 2 seasons prior to Stroud as Davis Mills was terrible. Tank Dell was drafted the same year as Stroud.

The Texans draft 7 2024 starters in 2023 and 2024. Add in Nico Collins breakout and Hunter as a defensive stud and you’ve got the roster they have today. Heck, they’ve got multiple starters from 2022 including another probowler.

Our drafting looks like poo from 2018-2024 compared to that even with Young looking so much better. They drafted three pro bowlers at the key positions in 2022-2023. I keep saying that our drafting has got to get to another level. Some people think Morgan did a great job this year and someone even posted that even if Coker is a WR3 that it’s a great result as a UDFA. That’s BS. Coker needs to be a good WR2 at worst to make up for missing on first and second rounders at WR for years.

Just look at the talent and depth the Texans got in the 2021-2024 drafts to see how much we need to do to really be playoff competitive year in and year out. The Texans look like they are there and a large part of that is “tanking” while starting Mills and trading Watson while he was worth something. We didn’t do that so we need to actually hit (XL and Brooks don’t count as a hit draft) on every draft while Young is still on a rookie deal.

TBF Houston stumbled into their draft picks by needing to trade Watson - they tried very hard not to, he just forced his way out.

As to our drafts, it wasn't a home run this year but could still turn out. Last year is looking OK. But when you give up what we did for a draft pick, if that draft pick isn't immediately transcendent, you set the roster back, and while we seem to be drafting role players well we need breakout stars and that hasn't happened. Hopefully Young turns it around sooner than later...

[kungfoodude]

1 hour ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

We can't all be perfect you know.

I mean, maybe start with just not being retarded.

[WhoKnows]

16 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

TBF Houston stumbled into their draft picks by needing to trade Watson - they tried very hard not to, he just forced his way out.

As to our drafts, it wasn't a home run this year but could still turn out. Last year is looking OK. But when you give up what we did for a draft pick, if that draft pick isn't immediately transcendent, you set the roster back, and while we seem to be drafting role players well we need breakout stars and that hasn't happened. Hopefully Young turns it around sooner than later...

You need a little luck but they got Stroud, Anderson, Stingley, Collins, Dell and a handful of other solid starters in 4 drafts. We got Iky, Young and Horn (1 healthy year) in the same 4 drafts. The trade up for Young (among other bad trade ups/trades) did cost us a lot of additional potential talent plus CMC and Moore. Feels like we’ve been treading water so to speak.

You are saying what I’ve been saying about our drafts. We need more than just hey Wallace has been OK or XL may end up being OK and hopefully Brooks will play again in 2026. There’s a huge difference between an above average NFL starter and a starter who wouldn’t start elsewhere. We need more top starters if we want to actually compete. The Texans turned over almost half their starters in the past 4 drafts with several top starters.