Why is it still a bad thing to call a QB a “game manager “??

[PootieNunu]

Its not really a bad thing....but a QB like Purdy should not be winning MVP in his game manager role with 3 guys who could be all pro in any season with another pro bowl WR thrown in for good measure and a top end OL. 

Then consider a guy like Josh Allen who is a much better player and leads the league in total TDs. 

If a guy on the 9ers wins MVP it should be CMC. 

[Davidson Deac II]

25 minutes ago, recceice said:

Plain and simple.. If Purdy, Dak, or Tua are with the Panthers are we competing for a playoff right now?? 
 

Now If We had Mahomes, Allen, Jackson or Rodger’s are we competing for a division title??

And that was Cam’s point..

If Shanahan comes with Purdy, yes.

[recceice]

10 minutes ago, WarHeel said:

I can personally see it either way. I could see how someone could read his comments and infer that he’s saying Purdy is JAG. If I were called a game manager and demonstrating consistent success despite the products around me, I really wouldn’t care about anyone’s opinion either way though. 

Kirk Cousin has been doing it for Years making more money then a lot of “game changer” and not giving a f about it..

[recceice]

2 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

If Shanahan comes with Purdy, yes.

Another point.. Could Purdy be as successful in a Shula, Brady, or Reich offense??

[Mr. Scot]

Kurt Warner had the best take on this.

The average fan is going to say that the difference between "game manager" and "game changer" is athleticism, The ability to make plays with their legs, etc.

Those things make for cool highlights and all, but what makes a professional championship winning quarterback is consistency in the passing game.

A guy who can consistently make the right decisions and get the ball to the right player / spot will win you way more games than a guy who can make an occasional highlight reel run.

If you have somebody who can do both of those things, that's great.

If you have to choose between one or the other though, you take the passer.

Also worth noting that athleticism fades with time and wear, but a guy who knows what he's doing doesn't lose that knowledge from getting older or taking hits.

Bottom Line: Game manager is a style of play and should never be considered an insult or a negative.

[pantherj]

We do have a definition for this term. "...a game manager is a quarterback who, despite pedestrian individual statistics such as passing yards and touchdowns, also maintains low numbers of mistakes, such as interceptions and fumbles."

With a game manager your roster as a whole decides the fate of the team that season. A great roster can sail into the playoffs with a game managing QB, but you're eliminated when you play a playoff team with a great QB. It's just too much to overcome. Then you'll have the problem of that great roster being dismantled by free agency, and during those seasons the "game manager" can't really elevate the sub-par roster. Some fans are fine with making the playoffs here and there but not going any further. They just don't want seasons like the one we're having now.

We basically have a below average roster, and a rookie QB who is an unknown at this point. If he develops into a game manager, then we can slowly piece together a good roster and shoot for a playoff birth. One thing is certain, the ceiling for Young is game manager, the floor is backup QB. 

 

[HardcoreHokie]

The opposite of a “Game Manager” is a “Gunslinger”.

Prime Brett Favre or prime Kirk Cousins?

[WarHeel]

9 hours ago, recceice said:

Kirk Cousin has been doing it for Years making more money then a lot of “game changer” and not giving a f about it..

No argument. Seems that the general public is more upset about it than the players he mentioned. 

[CBDellinger]

11 hours ago, recceice said:

Why is Cam getting so much hate from talking heads for calling certain QBS game managers??? 
Why is it still seen as a Scarlett letter when reality most of the league QBs are game managers??

cause idiots like Skip Bayless get on TV and use it as a condescending term.

[Barney]

Cam is now in the media world and the name of the game is to get clicks.  He knew some people would object to what some deem as a slight, so he said it and mission accomplished for him, he gets more attention and more clicks.  To me a game manager is what I want at QB.  Run the system, make the correct reads and accurate throws and worry more about winning than the individual attention.  It is a proven recipe for winning and I think if a QB can do this at a high level and keep winning they will get their fair recognition at the end of their career.  

[Mr. Scot]

3 hours ago, CBDellinger said:

cause idiots like Skip Bayless get on TV and use it as a condescending term.

It is sometimes on him too, though not in a malicious way.

Cam Is that friend you have who you know is a good guy and means well, but sometimes says things in a way that gets him in trouble. We've known that all the way back since the "women asking question about routes" thing.

You understand him, but others don't. And occasionally you hear him start to say something that makes you grit your teeth and think "no, stop, don't say that" but out it comes and here we go again.

No, they're not bad and yes, they mean well. It just happens. And as a result they wind up having to explain themselves a lot.

(or sometimes you have to do it for them)

Edited December 19, 2023 by Mr. Scot

[CBDellinger]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

It is sometimes on him too, though not in a malicious way.

Cam Is that friend you have who you know is a good guy and means well, but sometimes says things in a way that gets him in trouble. We've known that all the way back since the "women asking question about routes" thing.

You understand him, but others don't. And occasionally you hear him start to say something that makes you grit your teeth and think "no, stop, don't say that" but out it comes and here we go again.

No, they're not bad and yes, they mean well. It just happens. And as a result they wind up having to explain themselves a lot.

(or sometimes you have to do it for them)

"Hindsight is 50/50!"  -Cam Newton

[Untouchable]

I really don't see the issue here, nothing he said was inaccurate.  There are so few 'game changers' at the QB position and it's pretty much always been that way.  His list of game changers is pretty spot on IMO.

[Martin]

I think of a game manager as someone that excels within the system but maybe doesn’t have a lot to offer when things break down, a complementary player is missing etc. e.g. when Debo Samuel was down, Purdy didn’t look as good, when Cam was missing someone he just stepped up his game. Game managers are also great at avoiding mistakes, they usually don’t cost their team a win. So it is not a bad thing.