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Re-Grading the 2023 off season trades

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LinvilleGorge Grand Master

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Individually:

Bryce and Bryce trade - 0. Calling it an F isn't enough. It's a zero.

Rest of the draft - F

Sanders - F

Hurst - F. Paying a former 1st round bust turned career journeyman like a legit starter. Brilliant. Peak Hurney stuff.

Chark - F. Signing a deep threat specialist to pair with a QB who has no deep ball. Brilliant.

Bozeman - F. Another mauler asked to try to finesse.

Thielen - B. This guy has actually been a good player for us and our passing game would be non-existent without him. All criticism of Thielen aren't about the player himself, but that a guy who should probably be a #3 WR at this stage in his career isn't a true #1. Well, no poo.

Von Bell - B. He's been a good player for us. No complaints.

Dalton - B. Looked pretty good that one time we actually played him.

Frank Reich and company - LOL, F

Everyone I forgot or left out - F

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6 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Individually:

Bryce and Bryce trade - 0. Calling it an F isn't enough. It's a zero.

Rest of the draft - F

Sanders - F

Hurst - F. Paying a former 1st round bust turned career journeyman like a legit starter. Brilliant. Peak Hurney stuff.

Chark - F. Signing a deep threat specialist to pair with a QB who has no deep ball. Brilliant.

Bozeman - F. Another mauler asked to try to finesse.

Thielen - B. This guy has actually been a good player for us and our passing game would be non-existent without him. All criticism of Thielen aren't about the player himself, but that a guy who should probably be a #3 WR at this stage in his career isn't a true #1. Well, no poo.

Von Bell - B. He's been a good player for us. No complaints.

Dalton - B. Looked pretty good that one time we actually played him.

Frank Reich and company - LOL, F

Everyone I forgot or left out - F

Was this our worst offseason ever?

2009 or 2010 would be the only ones I can think of that come close.  2009 because of the Delhomme contract and trading a future 1st to take Everette in the 2nd round.  2010 didn't have any moves as bad as the trade up for Bryce or Everette, but we did absolutely nothing and wasted a year of a lot of great players.

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1 hour ago, KSpan said:

F is not low enough for the low-IQ moves that have been happening one after another for years now.

Not sure why this thread even needed to be created since anyone with half a brain would have given this disastrous trade an F like i did when it happened regardless on who would have been taken in the draft months later. Maybe i was the only one who thought trading our ONLY playmaker was one of the worst move ever by a GM and called for his ouster after it was made. This playmaker finally made Fields look good in year 3 when he finally got a true playmaker. 

I also given the ghost passer trade an F too cause after 3 years of failure as a starter, only a fool would think a change in scenery would make any difference. Our GM is a joke!

https://www.derp/2022/3/7/22962178/scott-fitterer-carolina-panthers-year-1-review-player-trades

 

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2 hours ago, thunderraiden said:

The fact we gave up DJ Moore IN ADDITION to draft capital is the joke to start with. DJ was worth 2 first by himself.

You got that right my friend. The 49ers refused to trade any of their playmakers to the Dolphins cause they had no playmakers which is why Tua was struggling to find anyone open with his accurate yet weak noodle arm. SF rather give the Fins 3 first round picks instead to draft Trey Lance. Fortunately the Fins was able to draft Tua's Bama connection buddy in Waddle as their 1st playmaker and the rest is history. 

https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/tua-tagovailoa-underthrows-tyreek-hill-in-miami-dolphins-hype-video-01g2smj47700

When Da Bears ask for our only playmaker to help out Fields, our idiot GM complied like no big deal so Fields as their GM must be laughing at us that he accepted. Yet most fans here continues to bash Bryce, calling him names like pillows when he has NO PLAYMAKERS on make a difference! If we can somehow trade for Jamo to complete the Bama connection, Bryce using his accurate arm can finally open up field which will be a sight to behold. 

But it seems like only a few like us here understand the importance of playmakers that i been harping on since day one! Until we get a playmaker which is NOT Thielin nor Mingo as neither can get any separation even on a good day, we will continue struggling to win games and it will NOT be Bryce's fault!!!

https://www.redcuprebellion.com/2023/4/25/23696643/2023-nfl-draft-profile-jonathan-mingo-ole-miss-rebels-football-wide-receiver-first-round

 

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On 12/17/2023 at 1:04 PM, LinvilleGorge said:

Individually:

Bryce and Bryce trade - 0. Calling it an F isn't enough. It's a zero.

Rest of the draft - F

Sanders - F

Hurst - F. Paying a former 1st round bust turned career journeyman like a legit starter. Brilliant. Peak Hurney stuff.

Chark - F. Signing a deep threat specialist to pair with a QB who has no deep ball. Brilliant.

Bozeman - F. Another mauler asked to try to finesse.

Thielen - B. This guy has actually been a good player for us and our passing game would be non-existent without him. All criticism of Thielen aren't about the player himself, but that a guy who should probably be a #3 WR at this stage in his career isn't a true #1. Well, no poo.

Von Bell - B. He's been a good player for us. No complaints.

Dalton - B. Looked pretty good that one time we actually played him.

Frank Reich and company - LOL, F

Everyone I forgot or left out - F

Man, I really wanted to poo your obscene negativity, but fug... You're spot on.

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