Panthers Vs Saints 1PM Gameday Thread

[CamWhoaaCam]

3 minutes ago, weyco2000 said:

I’m actually enjoying my 12 1/2 hour shift more each Sunday.

Well damn!

[CamWhoaaCam]

You guys would feel so much better if you just stop watching these games. 

 

We suck we will continue to suck. We are borderline the most irrelevant team in the NFL.

[Loyalty4Life]

25 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

You cant blame the line for his footwork if he has NEVER HAD good footwork.

Have no problem admitting that but I wonder what happens if a guy has bad footwork and one of the bottom 5 pass blocking lines in the league.  I'm not leaving Bryce blameless.  He has played badly but it's not all on him and it very difficult to see what can be corrected and improved and what is just something he can't do because almost every aspect of the offense except Moton has played badly or very inconsistent.

It's the NFL.  It's never just one thing.

Bryce can get better with a different system and personal.  We are never going to do well starting bottom of the barrel guards every game and Icky getting beat on nearly every speed rush when he doesn't have help.  Add in Bozemen who has allowed 7 sacks and there is plenty of blame to go around. 

A WR core who are tops in the league in not being able to get open also contributes. 

The offensive scheme too.  It all goes together.  Each one helps or hurts the rest.  When the collection as a whole is bad it's not just a Bryce thing.

It's beyond a cliche to say a QB gets to much credit and too much blame and that is because most fans don't understand how all the parts interact and effect the other parts.

[Loyalty4Life]

35 minutes ago, BenjaminBreeg said:

Yes, there are only six teams in the NFL whose O-lines provide their QBs with more time in the pocket than our O-line. You heard that right, only six teams are ahead. It's not our O-line's fault that Bryce holds onto the ball for too long and is too slow to escape sacks.

You have no idea how to analyze stats.  Stats lie and liars use stats.  That because you have to look at them in context.  

For instance, it's a combination of scheme, pressure, and WR not getting separation.  I've watched the all-22 film of more than half the games and the biggest reason Bryce holds onto the ball waaaay to long is no one is open.

A stat is going to tell you an average in this context.  Go watch the All-22 film and watch each play and then try to assess why it failed. 

[RJK]

52 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

Zach Wilson is bad on a good team. Don’t be dumb. 

At least he can throw the ball 20 yards downfield 

[BenjaminBreeg]

3 minutes ago, Loyalty4Life said:

You have no idea how to analyze stats.  Stats lie and liars use stats.  That because you have to look at them in context.  

For instance, it's a combination of scheme, pressure, and WR not getting separation.  I've watched the all-22 film of more than half the games and the biggest reason Bryce holds onto the ball waaaay to long is no one is open.

A stat is going to tell you an average in this context.  Go watch the All-22 film and watch each play and then try to assess why it failed. 

 

Thank you for the poo take. Do you blame the O-line too for our receivers not getting open? How long do you want the O-line to hold the pocket for Bryce? 10 seconds? 20 seconds? Would that be enough? GTFO!

[45catfan]

53 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

He actually wrote the whole thing.

It was done with influences from both Reich and McVay but he did all the writing.

I could care less who actually wrote it, I'm talking about philosophy.  it was reported that the playbook was about a 60:40 philosophy/influence collaboration between Reich and Brown.

[Ghostofdelhomme]

if there’s no one open at the top of the drop, then take off. This waiting is useless with these WR’s. Taking off will also help those receivers get open in the future, the threat of the scramble will eventually draw the Lbs in.

[Loyalty4Life]

11 minutes ago, BenjaminBreeg said:

 

Thank you for the poo take. Do you blame the O-line too for our receivers not getting open? How long do you want the O-line to hold the pocket for Bryce? 10 seconds? 20 seconds? Would that be enough? GTFO!

Your reading comprehension leaves a lot to be desired. 

I just said it was a combination of SCHEME, PRESSURE and WR's not getting separation. 

Christianson, Corbett, Zavala, Thorkmorton, Mays, Toth, McCray, Jenson

We are starting our 3rd/4th string guards.  Icky getting beat on speed rushes to the outside are 100% on him.  A LT has to be able to play on an island.

If you're good with that and think the oline if fine, then I've got a deal for you on a great bridge for sale.

 

[Mr. Scot]

27 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

I could care less who actually wrote it, I'm talking about philosophy.  it was reported that the playbook was about a 60:40 philosophy/influence collaboration between Reich and Brown.

I don't think it matters in the end.

It's just bad.

[45catfan]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

I don't think it matters in the end.

It's just bad.

Yeah, and to make it look worse, we don't have players that can execute it either.

[mrcompletely11]

3 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I'll put the over under at 20 with Bryces post game presser of "you know, it's um, yeah and uh"   

it took all of 36 seconds

 

goddamn panther pr get someone to work with this kid

 

 

Edited December 11, 2023 by mrcompletely11

[Mr. Scot]

Kaye...

 

[thennek]

Young is a polarizing player? First I’ve heard that rumor. As of now he does not seem to be a very good quarterback, and certainly not worthy of a number one pick, but I don’t see him as polarizing