Burns 55th in league with 17 pressures

[DeAngelo Beason]

Burns is a mega-douche.  Self-centered prick.  If oozes off of him.

[MHS831]

Fitterer's best acquisition may have been his first--Sullivan.

His free agent acquisitions?  Busts.  His draft picks?  Busts.  The guy is consistent.

Someone here on the huddle said it best--the franchise player is Derek Brown, not Burns. 

[Sir Big Spurr]

13 hours ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

My question to you why are you mad at a player on the defense?

 

What about the sorry offensive players?

Those guys are the players who actually suck on the team. If anyone should receive hate it is them.

 

*FYI I think Burns is probably the only player other teams would want from our team. Just saying someone trash is another person treasure.

 

Is there an underperforming player on the offense who wants to get paid way over his value? Show me that player and I’ll hate him too. 
 

[csx]

14 hours ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Im sick n tired of you Burns haters shitting on this dude every week. My goodness grow up!

 

I hope we give this dude 30mil a year just to piss off half the fanbase.

 

#InBurnsWeTrust

Facts can hurt. Grow up.

[KSpan]

14 hours ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

I love him. Is he perfect? No.

 

He's still one of our best defensive players on the team. If we going to get mad at a player Burns is way down on that list of players we should be angry at.

 

What about this sorry Oline?

What about the toddler QB with a noodle arm?

Mingo and TMJ nowhere to be found!

Fug the offense!

 

Defense has been our bright spot all season, and you fans keep piling on one of the best players on the entire freaking team! Fug that im fed up with the Burns hate!

 

Enough is Enough!

Who is mad at him? Maybe some, but as I've said many times before calling out performance or lack thereof is not 'being mad' or 'hating'. There are also plenty of comments about the offense but those guys aren't posturing themselves as one of the best in the league, and I'm pretty sure that Bryce's play and the OL take a metric ton of flak around the fanbase (rightfully so IMO) - thus why I have also always said, and did so again here with respect to Burns, with big demands comes big expectations, big attention, and big scrutiny. Burns, like every other high-profile player, brings it on themselves when they move into the spotlight. It is what it is. 

Also for the millionth time, just can it with the 'hate' business. Few, if anyone, 'hates' him. To repeat, caling out performance that doesn't match demands is not 'hate'. Pointing out flaws in objective disucssion is not 'hate'. That word specifically has been rendered meaningless by uses such as this and you won't be taken seriously popping off about 'haters'. It's just trite at this point. 

[Gapanthersfan]

I miss having true blue chip players that are league wide names. Brown and Luvu are  arguably getting there, but not yet. 
 

I’m tired of every single addition to this being a swing and a miss. 

[Tr3ach]

14 hours ago, Toomers said:

That tag and trade will be much harder than people are thinking. No one will pay him 30M if the team that put his value there won’t. Then give up picks to do it. 
 

   And he won’t sign the tag without having accepted a new deal from someone. Which means he is going to have to take much less than he wants. 
 

Montez Sweat for a 2nd and a 24M/yr deal. And he is every bit as good as Burns. Why would teams give more than that? 

Ive made this argument since before the trade deadline since everyone here was arguing it made no sense to trade him then instead of just franchising him and getting two firsts (which definitely isnt going to happen, that 2 firsts trade value sailed a long time ago)

[d-dave]

I'm getting more and more over Burns.  He does play hard, he's a good guy, fun guy, but he's not elite.  He has elite traits with speed and bend, but he's not showing up.  I don't care about the punch and ejection as much because we're all frustrated.

He's what?  25?  How many games has he completely taken over in five years?  He's sure made some impact plays - but he's not taken over many games and made life miserable for an opposing QB.  He's a good player, not a great player.  I was VERY against trading him, even for two 1s from the Rams because I was still in the hope that he would turn that corner, but he hasn't.  It sucks as a fan.

The Panthers haven't help him out.  The defense doesn't have many opportunities to pin it's ears back.  There's no bookend to take pressure off him.  But he disappears way to much.  He's better making plays in the run game, but he can still get rolled up often.

Will Burns ever deliver on a $25-30 million a year contract?  I don't know.  He doesn't look like it.  I'm not sure he's going to be a good OLB, better as a rush end.  It's going to depend on our next coach and GM what happens, but if he walks - I'm ok with it.  He might need a different situation, different coaching. Hopefully the Panthers tag and trade him to someone willing to pay Burns and maximize his value so we can continue the annual Panthers tradition of trading our best and most talented players for scraps.

[Panthers Fan 69]

 Burns was a one trick pony. He could only rush the passer and couldn’t stop the run. Now he can’t do either. He literally disappears. It’s not talent. The guy is talented. It’s clearly motivation, frustration, and boiled over finally. Is this a guy you want to build around? Maybe but he really needs someone across from him like Reddick. 

[Ricky Prickles]

Burns rated 55th? Well that settles it, make that man the highest paid at his position in the league!

[Paa Langfart]

17 hours ago, CRA said:

I’m sticking with my prediction he ends up walking for nothing….just like Peppers

The Panthers way.

[CamWhoaaCam]

3 hours ago, Sir Big Spurr said:

Is there an underperforming player on the offense who wants to get paid way over his value? Show me that player and I’ll hate him too. 
 

All players wants to get paid.

 

Pocket watching is sad and pathetic. I'm comfortable financially in real life. I don't have time to hate on people significantly richer then me. Either way they will be rich. 

 

 

[Navy_football]

14 hours ago, Gapanthersfan said:

Just imagine we keep Wilks, DJ, Foreman and ride 1 more year with Darnold… and take that trade for Burns. 

We would be leading the NFC south comfortably and trying to figure out how to use all of those first round picks we would still have… and our #1 receiver.. good times. 

And Jalen Carter with the 2023 first round pick. 

[ThrillzforthePils]

Can’t imagine being able to sign Burns, Brown, and Luvu.   I’d rather spend the money on Brown and Luvu.