The running game is no longer effective

[Guest DrewBreesIsGod]

The Katrina and "oh mah gawd saints have such good fanzzz" storylines are what made this Super Bowl "memorable" to morons in the national media and the easily impressionable. From a pure football standpoint, the actual quality of the game was pretty shitty. XLIV doesn't have poo on XLII/XLIII.

Yeah you are right. Very few flags, very clean routes, clean hard hits and very entertaining. Some of the best QB play a super bowl has ever seen.

Make some sense next time you post.

[Sloth]

Yeah you are right. Very few flags, very clean routes, clean hard hits and very entertaining. Some of the best QB play a super bowl has ever seen.

Make some sense next time you post.

It was a little boring because there was no defense, at all, except for one play by the Colts and the final minutes in the 4th by you guys. The whole game was just pitch and catch.

[Mr. Scot]

Ebb & Flow of the game. Some years the dominating running wins ballgames. Other years, it's predominately the pass.

And there's a reason for it.

A certain method succeeds - say, heavy passing - and two things happen. First off, teams around the league start copying it. Second, teams around the league start tooling their defenses to defend it.

(sometimes there are rule changes too, but I'll leave that out for now)

Before long, you've got everybody set up to stop what was working, and things are fairly balanced.

Then, all of a sudden, someone changes their style - say, to power running - and nobody is equipped to stop it because they were all gearing to stop the other style.

The new method succeeds, and thus two things happen...

(aaaaaand so it goes)

[Delhommey]

Yep. Everyone will go to small, fast LB's and heavy on the DB's and they'll get pushed all over the field.

One thing you have to have for power running though: Continuity on the O Line.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

Yeah you are right. Very few flags, very clean routes, clean hard hits and very entertaining. Some of the best QB play a super bowl has ever seen.

Make some sense next time you post.

Wow you know I'm honestly amazed that you, a fan of the winning team, would argue otherwise. The game was boring; there was no drama outside of the trumped up circumstance surrounding it. It was just the Colts tripping over their own feet and the Saints taking massive advantage of Manning playing like he wanted to go home and watch Simpsons reruns. Not to mention the Colts' "defense".

Just buy your World Champs merch and enjoy that. You have something that we don't; you have nothing to prove to Panthers fans right now. Saints fans of all people shouldn't care if it was a good game.

[Guest DrewBreesIsGod]

Wow you know I'm honestly amazed that you, a fan of the winning team, would argue otherwise. The game was boring; there was no drama outside of the trumped up circumstance surrounding it. It was just the Colts tripping over their own feet and the Saints taking massive advantage of Manning playing like he wanted to go home and watch Simpsons reruns. Not to mention the Colts' "defense".

Just buy your World Champs merch and enjoy that. You have something that we don't; you have nothing to prove to Panthers fans right now. Saints fans of all people shouldn't care if it was a good game.

well it looks like you failed to make sense the next time you posted....

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

well it looks like you failed to make sense the next time you posted....

I just vaguely complimented your team. What do you want, a blowjob or something?

[blackcatgrowl]

Yeah you are right. Very few flags, very clean routes, clean hard hits and very entertaining. Some of the best QB play a super bowl has ever seen.

Make some sense next time you post.

Hmm... lets see:

- Offensive lackluster... 331 total yards by the Saints... . A full 101 yards LESS offense than the Colts... and they still won.

- No running game by either team, neither team broke 100... Colts had 99 yards, Saints 51 yards, lol)

- 1 sack by both teams.

- A non-existent Colt's Defense... 1 sack, 1 QB hit, 2 batted balls, No INT, No forced fumbles... pathetic.

- No "close calls" that really mattered. The one challenge could have gone either way, and the game would have played out exactly the same.

http://www.nfl.com/liveupdate/gamecenter/54814/IND_Gamebook.pdf

About the only "exciting" thing was the onside kick. And even that was gimmicky and ultimately probably unnecessary.

Apart from that, it was like I put Madden on CPU vs. CPU play and let it roll. Hell... Madden would have been better because I wouldn't have had to watch all the terrible SB commercials (and these were some of the worst I've ever seen).

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

Hmm... lets see:

- Offensive lackluster... 331 total yards by the Saints... . A full 101 yards LESS offense than the Colts... and they still won.

- No running game by either team, neither team broke 100... Colts had 99 yards, Saints 51 yards, lol)

- 1 sack by both teams.

- A non-existent Colt's Defense... 1 sack, 1 QB hit, 2 batted balls, No INT, No forced fumbles... pathetic.

- No "close calls" that really mattered. The one challenge could have gone either way, and the game would have played out exactly the same.

http://www.nfl.com/liveupdate/gamecenter/54814/IND_Gamebook.pdf

About the only "exciting" thing was the onside kick. And even that was gimmicky and ultimately probably unnecessary.

Apart from that, it was like I put Madden on CPU vs. CPU play and let it roll. Hell... Madden would have been better because I wouldn't have had to watch all the terrible SB commercials (and these were some of the worst I've ever seen).

hurrr why don't u make sense the next time you post.

[Guest DrewBreesIsGod]

Hmm... lets see:

- Offensive lackluster... 331 total yards by the Saints... . A full 101 yards LESS offense than the Colts... and they still won.

- No running game by either team, neither team broke 100... Colts had 99 yards, Saints 51 yards, lol)

- 1 sack by both teams.

- A non-existent Colt's Defense... 1 sack, 1 QB hit, 2 batted balls, No INT, No forced fumbles... pathetic.

- No "close calls" that really mattered. The one challenge could have gone either way, and the game would have played out exactly the same.

http://www.nfl.com/liveupdate/gamecenter/54814/IND_Gamebook.pdf

About the only "exciting" thing was the onside kick. And even that was gimmicky and ultimately probably unnecessary.

Apart from that, it was like I put Madden on CPU vs. CPU play and let it roll. Hell... Madden would have been better because I wouldn't have had to watch all the terrible SB commercials (and these were some of the worst I've ever seen).

funny how you 'lol' our running effort, but again my man; 32-39 for 2TD's in the super bowl. 80+% completion percentage.

If that isn't unbelievable, what is? Oh, I forgot, you want a 13-10 game with each team rushing for about 150 and putting up 4 passes each and waiting on a defensive play or offensive mistake. News flash for you son; Bear Bryant is dead and that type of game is dead too. If you can't throw the ball in this league; good luck.

[CatMan72]

It was a boring game from the standpoint that neither team took many risks outside of Payton's 4th down goal line attempts and the onside kick (which is ironically one of the biggest risks in the history of the SB). Other than that, both explosive offenses were playing not to lose. The Colts ran the ball more times in that one game than they did all season and the Saints were content with lots of short gains in the passing game.

The Colts blinked first and the Saints won by getting themselves into a position where the Colts couldn't afford a mistake. It's not to discredit the Saints at all, they won - but I thought it was funny that both these teams played pretty conservatively overall.

[blackcatgrowl]

funny how you 'lol' our running effort, but again my man; 32-39 for 2TD's in the super bowl. 80+% completion percentage.

If that isn't unbelievable, what is?

Oh, it's unbelievable that the Colts secondary decided to stand around while receiver after receiver ran 15-20 yards into an open flat time and time again.

Even Jake Delhomme (as sorry as his accuracy has become) could get that sort of completion % if defenders play off 4-6 yards from the time the ball is snapped to point the completion.

Oh, I forgot, you want a 13-10 game with each team rushing for about 150 and putting up 4 passes each. News flash for you son; Bear Bryant is dead and that type of game is dead too. If you can't throw the ball in this league; good luck.

No, I want a hard fought game that is evident by what I see on the screen and in the numbers afterwards.

Compare to this Superbowl (Despite our loss)... a 29 to 32, near OT game:

http://www.nfl.com/liveupdate/gamecenter/26652/NE_Gamebook.pdf

- Tons of Offense (Each team had over 400 yards)

- Good solid rushing (over 200 yards total)

- Lots of D (4 sacks, tons of deflected passes, turnovers)

- Special teams play that wasn't gimmicky and directly affected the game...

That, son, was a real Superbowl, where men fought hard to win. Not this mockery of a game we watched last night.

[Guest DrewBreesIsGod]

Oh, it's unbelievable that the Colts secondary decided to stand around while receiver after receiver ran 15-20 yards into an open flat time and time again.

Even Jake Delhomme (as sorry as his accuracy has become) could get that sort of completion % if defenders play off 4-6 yards from the time the ball is snapped to point the completion.

No, I want a hard fought game that is evident by what I see on the screen and in the numbers afterwards.

Compare to this Superbowl (Despite our loss)... a 29 to 32, near OT game:

http://www.nfl.com/liveupdate/gamecenter/26652/NE_Gamebook.pdf

- Tons of Offense (Each team had over 400 yards)

- Good solid rushing (over 200 yards total)

- Lots of D (4 sacks, tons of deflected passes, turnovers)

- Special teams play that wasn't gimmicky and directly affected the game...

That, son, was a real Superbowl, where men fought hard to win. Not this mockery of a game we watched last night.

a 'real' superbowl? hahahaha, Lombardi is a Lombardi yo. I watched that game and I actually pulled for you guys. Jake kept you in that game. Ashamed to see what has happened to him.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

What the hell kind of attention ***** seeks validation on a rival forum the day after his team wins the Super Bowl anyway?