Zach Ertz released from the Cardinals to sign with a contender

[Panthering]

1 hour ago, tukafan21 said:

struggles as a pure passer

Lamar is a pretty darn good passer

[tukafan21]

31 minutes ago, Panthering said:

Lamar is a pretty darn good passer

Is he though?

They do a great job scheming up easy throws for him to complete, but he's not a QB who is completing tough passes into tight windows and winning with his pin point accuracy.  He's also only 20th in YPG this year, with only 2 games all season where he's thrown for more than 237 yards, and only 13 passing TDs in 12 games (he's also not racking up the rushing yards like in the past, he only has 5 games over 45 yards with only 1 game over 62).

He is 29th in accuracy rating, 26th on deep ball accuracy, 28th on deep ball completion percentage, 28th on deep ball catchable pass rate.

He is 29th and 27th in accuracy rating vs man and zone respectively, yet he is also 8th and 7th in completion percentage vs those coverages respectively.  Which means he's completing a bunch of easy passes and/or his WRs are catching bad passes.

To me, Lamar is a better and different version of Brock Purdy, someone who's success is more about the coaching staff and the team around them than their abilities as a QB. 

He's racking up mediocre passing stats based on scheme and short passes with YAC, not passing ability, there is a difference.

I think Lamar is a picture perfect example of where people conflate and have a hard time separating fantasy output vs real life abilities.

Edited November 30, 2023 by tukafan21

[KSpan]

1 hour ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

That's cool bro. No need to explain yourself to me. Lamar is elite in my mind. I understand not everyone will have that opinion. It is what it is no big deal.

Lamar has crazy talent, but his problem has been not performing in big games, both in-season and the playoffs. It has seemed to improve but tough to be elite until that happens, as his 1-3 playoff record with 3 TDs to 5 INTs is ugly. 

[t96]

Ertz sucks now

[Riverboat Ron]

We win out and we’re in the Super Bowl.

[CamWhoaaCam]

39 minutes ago, KSpan said:

Lamar has crazy talent, but his problem has been not performing in big games, both in-season and the playoffs. It has seemed to improve but tough to be elite until that happens, as his 1-3 playoff record with 3 TDs to 5 INTs is ugly. 

Josh Allen 0 SB's

Trevor Lawrence 0 SB's

Justin Herbert 0 SB's

Jalen Hurts 0 SB's

If winning a SB was easy, every elite QB would have one on their resume. 

[KSpan]

24 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Josh Allen 0 SB's

Trevor Lawrence 0 SB's

Justin Herbert 0 SB's

Jalen Hurts 0 SB's

If winning a SB was easy, every elite QB would have one on their resume. 

Where did I say anything about Super Bowls or that any of those other guys are elite?