Earnhardt, Jr.

[Matt Foley]

no that is where you are completely wrong....What is wrong with NASCAR starts at the top with Brian France and Mike Helton, the reason you are saying that it is JR's fault is....

A. You do not like him

B. He came in right before Brian France and Mike Helton took over the reigns from Bill France Jr, so yeah I can see where you would be confused

Totally agree with you on Brian. Why Helton, though?

[Tweeder]

ehh I just threw him under the bus, because no one ever really knew if the first changes that were made in the 2001-2003 were his or Brian France working behind the scenes......Even though Brian France did not take over until 2003 he still had a lot of say and it seemed like he went through Helton since he had the authority before 2003.

[Scrumtrilescent]

And his mustache isn't trustworthy.

[Matt Foley]

Anyone see Junior "magically" make the other drivers look like they had their brakes on during that last lap? How does he do that? (nudge nudge wink wink)

He can't even win when NASCAR sets it up for him.

[Claws]

Anyone see Junior "magically" make the other drivers look like they had their brakes on during that last lap? How does he do that? (nudge nudge wink wink)

He can't even win when NASCAR sets it up for him.

And that could very well be the truth. I think as a driver he sucks. He ain't nuthin like the rest of us. He's a jerk.

[Tweeder]

yeah he is a horrible driver.........top 40 in the history of NASCAR in alltime wins is a joke

[Claws]

yeah he is a horrible driver.........top 40 in the history of NASCAR in alltime wins is a joke

Top 40? This ain't Rick Dees on a Sunday Morning Countdown show bro! haha

1 Petty, Richard 200 7 1964,1967,1971,

1972,1974,1975,

1979 6

2 2 Pearson, David 105 3 1966,1968,1969

3 3 Allison, Bobby 84 1 1983 5

4 Waltrip, Darrell 84 3 1981,1982,1985 3

5 4 Yarborough, Cale 83 3 1976,1977,1978 3

6 5 Gordon, Jeff 82 4 1995,1997

1998,2001 2

7 6 Earnhardt, Dale 76 7 1980,1986,1987

1990,1991,1993

1994 3

8 7 Wallace, Rusty 55 1 1989 2

9 8 Petty, Lee 54 3 1954,1958,1959 3

10 9 Jarrett, Ned 50 2 1961,1965 1

11 Johnson, Junior 50

12 10 Thomas, Herb 48 2 1951,1953 2

13 11 Johnson, Jimmie 47 4 2006,2007

2008,2009 2

14 12 Baker, Buck 46 2 1956,1957 2

15 13 Elliott, Bill 44 1 1988 3

16 14 Flock, Tim 40 2 1952,1955 1

17 Martin, Mark 40 5

18 15 Isaac, Bobby 37 1 1970 1

19 Stewart, Tony 37 2 2002, 2005 1

20 16 Fireball Roberts 33 1

21 17 Jarrett, Dale 32 1 1999 1

22 18 White, Rex 28 1 1960 1

23 19 Lorenzen, Fred 26

24 20 Paschal, Jim 25

25 Weatherly, Joe 25 2 1962,1963

26 21 Rudd, Ricky 23 1

27 22 Labonte, Terry 22 2 1984,1996

28 23 Burton, Jeff 21

29 Labonte, Bobby 21 1 2000 1

30 Parsons, Benny 21 1 1973

31 Smith, Jack 21

32 24 Busch, Kurt 20 1 2004

33 Thompson, Speedy 20

34 25 Allison, Davey 19

35 Baker, Buddy 19

36 Flock, Fonty 19

37 26 Bodine, Geoffrey 18

38 Bonnett, Neil

Jr in 39th. Now look at some of the drivers ahead of him. A few of which none of us have ever heard of.

Jack Smith? Bobby Isaac?:hand:

[God]

Jr. is a joke.

[Mayor Qumiby]

Jr in 39th. Now look at some of the drivers ahead of him. A few of which none of us have ever heard of.

Jack Smith? Bobby Isaac?:hand:

are you kidding, you have never heard of Bobby Issac ???

Guy was pretty good back in the day. He held the speed record at talladega until Bill Elliot broke it , he also holds the nascar recororgor number of poles in a season and maybe even still holds the record for most poles ever..

The guy also set landspeed records in thr saltflats..

I still like the fact davey Allison is on the list , I think he could have been one of the best of his era if not even all time had he not died .

[Bobby]

Bobby Issac is a bit of a legend.

The thing is, Junior IS good. In fact, he's very good. But he's running at the same time as Gordon, Johnson, Kurt and Kyle Busch, Mark Martin, ect, not to mention being in the shadow of a colossus so his highlights usually go unnoticed. Kind of like Matt Kenseth, who in his own rite is quietly amazing.

He is a two-time Busch champion too, some will say the series is a joke, but that's worth something.

[Claws]

are you kidding, you have never heard of Bobby Issac ???

Guy was pretty good back in the day. He held the speed record at talladega until Bill Elliot broke it , he also holds the nascar recororgor number of poles in a season and maybe even still holds the record for most poles ever..

The guy also set landspeed records in thr saltflats..

I still like the fact davey Allison is on the list , I think he could have been one of the best of his era if not even all time had he not died .

I have heard of all of em to be honest. It was the bigger point i was trying to make that there's some names on there that most (not u and me) haven't ever heard of.

Sadly, i think the majority of Nascars fans have joined the ranks in the last ten to fifteen years. Theyw ould have no idea who half of the guys on that list are. That's what i was trying to say. :willy_nilly:

[Mayor Qumiby]

Ohhh ok .. I was thinking you ( one if the bigger nascar fans on this site) never heard of Issac , because you listed him with Jack smith. And to be honest Ive never heard of Jack smith lol.

[Matt Foley]

are you kidding, you have never heard of Bobby Issac ???

Guy was pretty good back in the day. He held the speed record at talladega until Bill Elliot broke it , he also holds the nascar recororgor number of poles in a season and maybe even still holds the record for most poles ever..

The guy also set landspeed records in thr saltflats..

I still like the fact davey Allison is on the list , I think he could have been one of the best of his era if not even all time had he not died .

My dad, and several other knowledgeable 1980s NASCAR fans, swear that if Tim Richmond hadn't have gotten AIDS he would have at least matched Earnhardt stride for stride, and maybe even topped him.

[Claws]

Tim Richmond just might have. I dunno.

How bout that dude's duds he wore? Fur coats? Alligator shoes?

LOL

He was a rock star.