“Keep a close eye on Belichik to Carolina”

[Day1PanthersFan]

This is all just wild speculation , if Bill doesn't stay with with pats , he is Charger bound with a franchise QB already in place 

With Teppo the clown in control , we are going to get the coach that no one else wants

Josh McDaniels, your 2024 Carolina Panthers head coach 

 

[LinvilleGorge]

5 hours ago, Mage said:

Belichick is still a good coach.  Quite frankly the Patriots are a lot more competitive than they should be given their lack of talent.

Bill the GM is the biggest issue.  They just have so few impact players.  But they went 8-9 last year and 10-7 the year before.  Not great but again better than they should be when you look at their talent.  I think if Belichick is willing to coach a team and just coach the team, he will be fine.  However I can't see him not wanting control over personnel at his next destination.

Yeah, Belichick has always low key been a bad GM. They've drafted poorly for years. It was vets coming aboard on ring chasing discounts that saved them. 

[jasonluckydog]

31 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, Belichick has always low key been a bad GM. They've drafted poorly for years. It was vets coming aboard on ring chasing discounts that saved them. 

Tom Brady made Belicheat a HOF coach. A head coach is only as good as his QB. 

[CamWhoaaCam]

14 minutes ago, jasonluckydog said:

Tom Brady made Belicheat a HOF coach. A head coach is only as good as his QB. 

Been preaching this for all sports to be honest.

 

Show me a great HC who won without great players?

 

Sports is a players league. HC 's are nothing more than guys who set up plays and schemes. If you don't have great players those play calls won't work.

 

You can put the best HC in history on our team right now and we would still be one of the worst teams in football.

[CPantherKing]

On 11/29/2023 at 8:48 AM, Car123 said:

Does it come with Brady? If not, meh.

It comes with Bryce Youngs football daddy in O'Brien as assistant HC & ownership/co-GM with Saban next to Tepper in a few years after Belichick gets his record. O'Brien will be elevated to HC with Young as the franchise QB for the next decade.

That's what Tepper is dreaming of

[csx]

Probably Bill's agent trying to play Tepper for some drummed up interest. This never made any sense for either side.

[methodtoll]

3 hours ago, Day1PanthersFan said:

This is all just wild speculation , if Bill doesn't stay with with pats , he is Charger bound with a franchise QB already in place 

With Teppo the clown in control , we are going to get the coach that no one else wants

Josh McDaniels, your 2024 Carolina Panthers head coach 

 

I would not be surprised at all if the next HC ends up being Bill O'Brien... Don't put it past Tepper to do it lol

[jasonluckydog]

4 hours ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Been preaching this for all sports to be honest.

 

Show me a great HC who won without great players?

 

Sports is a players league. HC 's are nothing more than guys who set up plays and schemes. If you don't have great players those play calls won't work.

 

You can put the best HC in history on our team right now and we would still be one of the worst teams in football.

Why do people not understand this simple concept? Until we upgrade the QB position and oline no head coach will have success. 

[csx]

4 hours ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Been preaching this for all sports to be honest.

 

Show me a great HC who won without great players?

 

Sports is a players league. HC 's are nothing more than guys who set up plays and schemes. If you don't have great players those play calls won't work.

 

You can put the best HC in history on our team right now and we would still be one of the worst teams in football.

Doug Pederson won it all with Foles and Wentz

[Davidson Deac II]

7 hours ago, csx said:

Doug Pederson won it all with Foles and Wentz

He surrounded them with a lot of good players, which is why it worked.  You can win without a great QB, just need a lot of other talented players.  

[LinvilleGorge]

People forget that Foles caught lightning in a bottle in that SB run. Was he a great QB long-term? No, absolutely not. But he was a great QB during that SB run.

[CamWhoaaCam]

8 hours ago, jasonluckydog said:

Why do people not understand this simple concept? Until we upgrade the QB position and oline no head coach will have success. 

Yeah not sure why they don't understand it.

 

And as long as Fitt is making those roster decisions we will continue to miss on quality players. It's why I have been pushy so hard for Jim Harbaugh. He has shown he can be a franchise changer if you give him a legit opportunity to be the guy. Tepper will never allow that to happen though.

[CamWhoaaCam]

8 hours ago, csx said:

Doug Pederson won it all with Foles and Wentz

Those rosters were loaded lol.

 

Trent Dilfer won a SB because he played with one of the best defenses in NFL history.

 

It all comes down to the players on the roster.

[ForJimmy]

8 hours ago, csx said:

Doug Pederson won it all with Foles and Wentz

He also got fired a couple years later. You need great players to have sustained playoff success. You need sustained playoff success to keep your HC job.