Josh McCown beating out Matt Moore...

[Mr. Scot]

Well that goes both ways obviously, because you can strike gold.

It doesn't always have to be that first round QB that takes you over the top either. You can get good QB's 2nd+ too.

I personally think that the team has to fit their style around their QB. Or get a QB who fits a style they already have in place.

Often you will see a QB stuck in a system he can't succeed in.

I pretty much agree with that post about how those early QB's usually go to a bad team. Then ruin their careers before they even get a real chance, because the team is so bad.

Brings me to a point that hasn't been discussed here yet.

It must be realized that any pro football team which has had an established starter in place for a number of seasons will be built around that quarterback. Personnel, schemes, terminology, etc. will all be tailored to maximize the strengths and hide the weaknesses of whomever the signal caller happens to be.

And while it's true that OC Jeff Davidson has only been on the job the past two years, the Panther offense is no exception. The organization had built it around Delhomme well before Davidson got here, and as such one of Davidson's main duties was to "get to know" Delhomme and learn how to work with him.

This is one of the main reasons why just putting in the backup or picking up the 'next big thing' isn't such an easy fix as fans often think.

It's also why, ideally, you want to have a backup and a QB of the future that, as much as possible, mirror the profile of your starter. I think the Panthers have that very setup right now.

Josh McCown is a lot like Delhomme, but with better mobility and less overall success. And Matt Moore? I've said here before that he's essentially "Delhomme II" when it comes to playing style.

This is one of the main reasons why I don't see QB as an offseason priority. Could they grab a guy to groom? I suppose, but I think the team is better served building depth and succession in other areas where the needs are likely to be a lot more pressing.

[Cpt slay a ho]

didn't read too much but.....matt moore ftf

(for the future)

[goodoleboy]

Fox doesn't want a young rook in on discussions on the sideline and calling plays in to the offense. He wants someone with more experience that may be able to add to the discussion and help the starter out rather than a rook. The chance he may have to go in is relatively small.

I think this is a good point. You also have to remember that Moore already knows the Panthers system. Repping McCown as the #2 will bring him up to speed quicker.

[EnglishPanther]

Number 2 is not worth talking about. If Jake gets injured I think we could be buggered!!! That said, i was impressed with Moore last season especially after watching Carr!!!

[ChucktownK]

Despite what we all think, it is well-known that Fox & Co. are loyal to their players and especially ones that have contributed in the past. As far as they're concerned, what Matt did last year at the end of the season was a relief for them with our QB situation and all.

[Cyberjag]

Our quarterback of the future probably isn't on the roster yet.

[Cpt slay a ho]

moore might have saved johns job

[beastson]

Heeeeyyy

Hi you doin

[weyco2000]

What does Matt Moore have to do to prove he's the starter? Jake is done and any QB with a last name of McCown is a back-up. Time to move on, Jake did us proud and Josh did nothing! The Panthers system doesnt require we need a 300 yd passer. No turnovers, run the ball and bend but dont break Defense, thats our style. A QB ranked 31st in QB ratings is ranked there for a reason and its not for TD passes. I wasnt exactly sold on Moore either but the way he played, elevated everyones game. Why are we still discussing this? Anyway Josh McCown will always be available as a FA, nobody else wants him.

[sleezedz]

What does Matt Moore have to do to prove he's the starter? Jake is done and any QB with a last name of McCown is a back-up. Time to move on, Jake did us proud and Josh did nothing! The Panthers system doesnt require we need a 300 yd passer. No turnovers, run the ball and bend but dont break Defense, thats our style. A QB ranked 31st in QB ratings is ranked there for a reason and its not for TD passes. I wasnt exactly sold on Moore either but the way he played, elevated everyones game. Why are we still discussing this? Anyway Josh McCown will always be available as a FA, nobody else wants him.

^ this

McCown tops out as a #2. Moore has shown he has the upside to be the starting QB

[X-Clown]

For the last two posters....you realize this thread was made in January of 2009, right?

[Sultan33g]

lol i was about to say the same

[Debil]

Why isn't Matt the bandaid? He is not a rookie anymore, has game experience, and more time in the Panthers system by 1 year.

I think Josh has shown the coaches a thing or two. He may be the chosen one to be groomed to start in a few years.

Fox was in love with McCown before he even played here. Him being above Moore on the depth chart is just more Fox loyalty BS. On the one hand, McCown may do better than Jake. But I don't think McCown is better than Moore.

[Debil]

For the last two posters....you realize this thread was made in January of 2009, right?

Oops... got me too. lol