OL PFFs grades are out. *Warning for the weak stomach*

[Navy_football]

5 minutes ago, DJ feed me moore said:

sorry the analytics said his RAS score was not up to par. 

Exactly. I guess football players don't care about RAS or S2 scores for that matter...

[ForJimmy]

6 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

https://x.com/catcraveblog/status/1726595736392040529?s=46&t=xeIgh_-Vr2aKxBkBJdfnKA

The said thing is we paid for Boze, paid for Corb, extended Moton for good money, spent a top 10 pick on Icky, and a 3rd on BC.  This some how turned into one of the worst OLs I've seen.  

[frankw]

3 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

frankw, Devito stepped up into the pass rush with one sack and there was literally no pressure - clean pocket. Another, he stepped up and ran left into the pressure instead of throwing the ball away - but he was at least able to step up into the pocket. Another, he was sacked by a safety, when WAS blitzed a CB and a S. Someone is open on that play. Just a slow read. 

That's just taking advantage of a rookie. He's made a few big throws - one to Saquan so far, but his pocket presence is not that good. I'm trying to be as objective as possible and saying 2 of the 4 were his fault. What he's doing better than Bryce (if that's what you're looking for) - pushing the ball downfield. And I agree Bryce has to do that more. 

I appreciate your info from the game film.

We agree completely about getting the ball downfield.

Now. Let's dig just a bit deeper on that. Is that lack of any downfield threat from both our QB deciding where to go with the ball and our receivers being not good making the job of our oline pass blocking significantly more difficult? The run game was fine yesterday for the most part. Teams see all this on tape. Many things need to change with this team. But Bryce Young has to prove he can beat defenses with his arm and until he does they will keep playing him the same way.

[Jay Roosevelt]

This is beyond bad players. Other than Zavala we know these guys are better than this.

There HAS to be something BAD wrong with this scheme.

[Gapanthersfan]

10 minutes ago, RumHam said:

a lot of that came from under center and not the HEY YALL WE'RE RUNNING A ZONE READ STRAIGHT INTO A PILE

I swear scheme is more important than results to these guys. 
 

it was working. 5.7 yards/run average and you give him 10 Carries? We could have potentially run for 180 - 200 yards yesterday. 

[Cam Lawter]

3 minutes ago, Gapanthersfan said:

I swear scheme is more important than results to these guys. 
 

it was working. 5.7 yards/run average and you give him 10 Carries? We could have potentially run for 180 - 200 yards yesterday. 

Any chance Tepper is forcing Reich to call more passing plays to see if Bryce gets better? Only thing I can think of besides the staff basically faking it till they made it in the NFL. 

Edited November 20, 2023 by Cam Lawter

[Gapanthersfan]

Just now, Cam Lawter said:

Any chance Tepper is forcing Reich to call more passing plays to see if Bryce gets better? Only thing I can think of besides the staff basically faked it till they made it in the NFL. 

I see no other explanation that makes sense. 
 

Bryce’s best friend is a strong running game. Both your RBs are averaging over 5 ypc and you shut it down? You’ve got to feed that until they prove they can stop it. It was the only thing that would limit Parsons. 
 

Our only chance yesterday was keeping it tight and winning by 3 with a late FG. 

[Johnstonny]

I don't care what scheme you are running these guys are putrid, last year musta been a fluke....

[thebdawg]

51 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

So out of 59 offensive plays. 36 were called passes. Not sure why more passes than runs yesterday, but that's another story. 

6 sacks, 1 hit, and 9 hurries from the interior line. That's right in your face. 45% of your dropbacks resulted in pressure up the middle. Factor in the tackles and 61% of your dropbacks resulted in pressure. 

22 of 36 passes with a dirty pocket or pressure (mostly from the interior).

14 of 36 dropbacks without pressure and he completed 16 passes. 

Factor that with the receiver win rates/separation and I'm not sure what this dude can do. Not as a damn rookie. And I distinctly remember Mingo dropping 2 balls that hit him in the hands, and even Thielen should have caught one that he let the defender take away from him (had it in both hands). 

Our QB isn't without fault - what rookie isn't? But just because the team gave up a lot to get him doesn't mean he can perform miracles. No QB can work in this situation. 

Add onto this that all of this pressure has a compounding effect on the quarterback. When you’re pressured as much as Bryce is, you think you’re being pressured every play. You never trust your blocking. You expect the hit coming every play, even when you’re sitting in a clean pocket. 

I think that’s why we’ve seen his performance get worse over the last few weeks. He is just scared back there and I don’t blame him. It’s as bad an offensive line as I’ve seen.

[Krovvy]

I don't know if I've ever seen such low scores for any position group before.

[Paa Langfart]

1 hour ago, Cavscout said:

Zavala shouldn't be in the NFL, or CFL, or XFL. Dude is REALLY bad! 

Cool name though.

[Cam Lawter]

Campen has to go. This has to be on him switching something up since most of the guys played well last year. 

Zavala 1 on 1 with Parsons? This has to be some kind of cruel joke lol

Edited November 20, 2023 by Cam Lawter

[jayboogieman]

59 minutes ago, frankw said:

Tommy DeVito was sacked nine times yesterday.

 

[Carl Spackler]

40 minutes ago, frankw said:

Well at some point you have to ask tough questions like is part of our woes fitting the offense to Bryce Young's strengths. We're forcing everything into one predictable box and it can't all be because Frank Reich is the most incompetent coach in NFL history. When you're this bad you have to assess everything and everyone.

I don't even think the office is fit to his strengths anymore. Every position group on offense is struggling and that's a mixture of lack of talent as well as underwhelming performance due to ill-fitting scheme, poor play from those around said players. Nobody on the offensive side, QB, OL, WR, TE, RB, is really set up to succeed, and no one is succeeding except No. 19.