Another Bryce Breakdown

[BrianS]

I haven't seen this guy's content before, but he points out some things that other folks aren't.  Specifically, he's showing examples of open receivers and Bryce not doing what is necessary to get the ball there.

 

[ForJimmy]

Yeah it looks like regression. 

[LinvilleGorge]

I've noticed that lazy squared up to the field footwork all season. It's typical spread shotgun college QB stuff. It's a big reason why the air raid QBs rarely worked out back in the day. It's less of a knock against prospects in today's NFL but it's causing Bryce to be too slow on miss open receivers. You can't see a guy come open then get your feet ready in the NFL. By the time you do that he's probably not open anymore. You gotta bring your feet and hips with your eyes and Bryce just isn't doing it. He stands squared up to the field and then oftentimes will literally jump like a frog still square to the field and try to throw. I don't care if you're prime Cam you're going to really struggle to generate any velocity doing trash like that.

[dave-o]

[Jay Roosevelt]

If his footwork is so bad why isn't the coaching staff addressing it? That is something that should absolutely be fixable.

[ForJimmy]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I've noticed that lazy squared up to the field footwork all season. It's typical spread shotgun college QB stuff. It's a big reason why the air raid QBs rarely worked out back in the day. It's less of a knock against prospects in today's NFL but it's causing Bryce to be too slow on miss open receivers. You can't see a guy come open then get your feet ready in the NFL. By the time you do that he's probably not open anymore. You gotta bring your feet and hips with your eyes and Bryce just isn't doing it. He stands squared up to the field and then oftentimes will literally jump like a frog still square to the field and try to throw. I don't care if you're prime Cam you're going to really struggle to generate any velocity doing trash like that.

100%. Also footwork and fundamentals is how Brees made it work with his smaller frame. He literally hopped around the pocket with his feet set going through his progressions. 

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, ForJimmy said:

100%. Also footwork and fundamentals is how Brees made it work with his smaller frame. He literally hopped around the pocket with his feet set going through his progressions. 

Peyton probably had the best in the pocket footwork of any QB I can recall. The guy was slow as hell on the run but he could chop it up in the pocket.

[Jackie Lee]

20 minutes ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

If his footwork is so bad why isn't the coaching staff addressing it? That is something that should absolutely be fixable.

Because he's a point guard or something. Even JT ignores it on QB school for some reason and he literally trashes mid level draft prospects if they barely click their heels 

[LinvilleGorge]

12 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

Because he's a point guard or something. Even JT ignores it on QB school for some reason and he literally trashes mid level draft prospects if they barely click their heels 

The more I watch of his stuff the less I care for it. He clearly gets extremely hung up on some nit picky stuff and will ignore glaring stuff if he likes the guy. He basically just sticks with preconceptions for way too long even when his preconceptions are clearly not being born out on the field week after week after week. At some point it's just lie, hey y'all it ain't what I thought it was going to be.

[electro's horse]

7 hours ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

If his footwork is so bad why isn't the coaching staff addressing it? That is something that should absolutely be fixable.

I’ve seen him start with the slow backpedal then switch to a traditional drop back. It’s almost like he’s trying to buy time for routes to develop. 
 

then He gets killed or throws a wounded duck 

[BrianS]

54 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

I’ve seen him start with the slow backpedal then switch to a traditional drop back. It’s almost like he’s trying to buy time for routes to develop. 
 

then He gets killed or throws a wounded duck 

If that's his reasoning - no one knows for sure - he's in the wrong.  In the NFL route concepts are married to the footwork.  If you get to the top of your drop and your receiver isn't where he's supposed to be, you move on to the next guy in the progression.  You gotta do it that way to succeed.

It also gives your QB the ability to go to the staff and say "Hey, I'm doing my part, what's up with the receivers?"

I am completely baffled by the mechanics our QB puts on film.  I am equally baffled by the lack of attention it seems to be getting among those who watch for such things.  When you watch Cam's rookie footage, he has some footwork issues - but not nearly to the extent Bryce does.

[hepcat]

8 hours ago, Jackie Lee said:

Because he's a point guard or something. Even JT ignores it on QB school for some reason and he literally trashes mid level draft prospects if they barely click their heels 

David Tepper playing 4D chess with the fanbase pumping out cash to have some favorable spin on Bryce at the expense of the offensive scheme lol

[frankw]

Worse footwork than rookie Cam Newton? Sheesh.

What exactly is Josh McCown doing here?

[*FreeFua*]

I was hopeful when Bryce started to make progress during the back end of the Detroit game then against Miami which led to his best game as a pro against Houston. 

However these last two week against Indy and Chicago have been so bad I’m down on him more than I was the first 3 weeks. 

If you go to 24:20 in the video that is so damn concerning. Hurst is wide ass open and it’s obvious he’s going to be wide ass open long before his break. Bryce isn’t really processing anything and if he is it’s super slow. Combine that with his slow footwork, lack of arm strength and yuck. 

Bryce depends on his ability to process to make up for his arm. Some QB’s can bail themselves out with slow processing times due to arm strength. By seasons end if the slow processing time is still popping up every where on the screen then he’s toast

I’ve just skimmed through this video but I definitely already like Slotter a lot more than JT. Hopefully he keeps doing Bryce videos. 

Edited November 17, 2023 by *FreeFua*