How many "retread" head coaches actually pan out?!?

[Johnstonny]

Dick Vermeil  comes to mind... Situation sounds similar.. Frank ain't no Vermeil tho... of course he coached St.Louis and Kansas City...

"Vermeil began his NFL head coaching career in 1976 with the Philadelphia Eagles, taking over after the team went 4–10 the previous year.^[6] Due to past trades by the Eagles, Vermeil's teams did not have a first-round draft pick until 1979"

Edited November 15, 2023 by Johnstonny

[Mr. Scot]

8 minutes ago, Johnstonny said:

Dick Vermeil  comes to mind... Situation sounds similar.. Frank ain't no Vermeil tho... of course he coached St.Louis and Kansas City...

"Vermeil began his NFL head coaching career in 1976 with the Philadelphia Eagles, taking over after the team went 4–10 the previous year.^[6] Due to past trades by the Eagles, Vermeil's teams did not have a first-round draft pick until 1979"

Vermeil built a hell of a staff in Saint Louis. He had a good number of former head coaches working for him.

[Johnstonny]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Vermeil built a hell of a staff in Saint Louis. He had a good number of former head coaches working for him.

You mean like Frank does?

[tukafan21]

This is why I don’t think we will fire Reich until about a month into next season.

Young coaches know this, they aren’t going to bet their HC career that they’ve been working their whole lives towards, on Bryce and this awful roster.

Why fire Reich to just hire a 3rd rate option to replace him?

You have to wait until after next season, when we have our 1st round pick again and a new coach can replace Bryce with their own guy.  It’s the only way we can try and get someone with potential to be a quality long time HC.

[Carl Spackler]

Just now, tukafan21 said:

This is why I don’t think we will fire Reich until about a month into next season.

Young coaches know this, they aren’t going to bet their HC career that they’ve been working their whole lives towards, on Bryce and this awful roster.

Why fire Reich to just hire a 3rd rate option to replace him?

You have to wait until after next season, when we have our 1st round pick again and a new coach can replace Bryce with their own guy.  It’s the only way we can try and get someone with potential to be a quality long time HC.

For being such a fan of Tshimanga Biakabutuka, you'd think you'd wanna have at least some semblance of patience with a first-round pick.

[tukafan21]

10 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

For being such a fan of Tshimanga Biakabutuka, you'd think you'd wanna have at least some semblance of patience with a first-round pick.

Biakabutuka’s problems had nothing to do with his skill or ability, which he regularly would flash when healthy enough to stay on the field.

Bryce just isn’t good, he has had literally 2 or 3 plays where he showed even above average potential, but don’t think I’ve seen a single play that said “he could be elite” because he flat out doesn’t have the physical traits needed for that.

he’s a bust, the sooner people accept it, the quicker we can get past him 

[Davidson Deac II]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Vermeil built a hell of a staff in Saint Louis. He had a good number of former head coaches working for him.

More importantly, he had a very talented roster.  

[jfra78]

I think Tepper was won over by the staff Reich wanted to put together