Do you watch CJ Stroud and wonder ‘what if’?

[ForJimmy]

Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

his oline sucks and his best wr was a 7th round pick from 5 years ago.  Lets try this again

There is some middle ground here. The Houston offense in functioning way better than ours. They have speed at WR a solid TE and an OL that is blocking better that ours. Watching Houston’s offense vs ours is a huge difference. Their OC is doing a great job and Stroud is taking them to the next level. Both things can be true. Stroud is elevating them and they are a much more competent unit than ours. 
We are trying to force our power running OL into a dancing bears, finesse zone blocking unit, playing a rookie WR who is probably a slot at this level on the outside because our only decent player on offense is a 32 year old WR who had to move to slot because he lost a step. Seriously who on our offense would you absolutely want to retain for our future? 

[Knaakedup]

8 minutes ago, FugginPoo said:

Stroud would suck on this panthers team.  The OL is horrendous, the WR suck and can’t get separation and the scheme is awful and not suited for the personnel 

You must not have read what I said in my post.

That argument is completely invalid and doesn't matter here on this topic. Stroud is lightyears ahead of Bryce. One is a top 5 QB, the other is being discussed as possible bust.

Look at the balls CJ throws, the velocity, the accuracy, and show me any of that from Bryce... ever.

[mrcompletely11]

2 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

I was going to support whoever we took and I still am but it's rough watching him break records and legitimately be in the MVP conversation right now.

There's still no way in hell he's playing as well for us as he is for the Texans. Their receivers and offensive scheme are infinitely better than our own. I have no idea how much better he'd be at throwing 7 yard hitches to guys with zero separation as the line crumbles around him before he finishes his drop back.

This situation was a no winner for any QB we brought in. I doubt MVP winner Patrick Mahomes from last season would look good in this putrid offense, We are just that bad.

his best wr was a 7th round pick from 2017, I am pretty goddamn sure stroud can elevate just about any team at this point

[ForJimmy]

6 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

we can be open minded about young but to start the race off this far behind and this fuging wrong makes everything much much harder

 

stroud is literally one of the best qbs in the nfl right now while young is literally one of the worsts.  And houston was an absolute catastrophe as a team last year

Yeah with Lovie Smith they struggled. They clearly have some talent and Ryans is looking to be a legit HC which several people on here saw coming just not this quickly.

[SOJA]

I'm not ready to grade Bryce yet. That being said I was a Stroud guy from that Rose Bowl game when he was a sophomore and JSN went off, you could just tell he had it. My biggest issue with Bryce moving forward is that while this offense is TERRIBLE and impossible to grade a rookie in, Bryce's path to success in the NFL is narrower than imagined. 

I am praying he succeeds because all these hypotheticals will only drive you crazy at this point. 

[Knaakedup]

9 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

We can admit we missed on Stroud but still be open minded about Young. Stroud is taking the league by storm and we are a complete mess. Hopefully we can get a competent offense going so we can give Young a fair chance before moving on from him. We are officially at the bottom now with the Cards winning so no where to go but up… Well after the Cowboys game which could be very ugly.

I would agree with this, but nothing will improve until the entire FO is cleaned out.

[DJ feed me moore]

4 hours ago, MGH1989 said:

No one is clamoring for Sam Howell except UNC fans.

leads the NFL in passing yards btw

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, DJ feed me moore said:

leads the NFL in passing yards btw

meanwhile matt corral is in a padded room

 

fug you fitt you fat motherfuger

[*FreeFua*]

Stroud is throwing for 300+ on this sorry ass team still.

His ability to throw guys open and extend plays with his legs would be the difference here

Edited November 13, 2023 by *FreeFua*

[Jaxel]

I have been and will remain really patient with Young. But even I admit that I watch game after game and see top tier QBs make a throw and think to myself, I'm not sure Bryce would, or even could make that throw. It's probably a bias but I admit it's frustrating.

Edited November 13, 2023 by Jaxel

[ForJimmy]

8 minutes ago, Knaakedup said:

I would agree with this, but nothing will improve until the entire FO is cleaned out.

I was surprised to hear we were inquiring about Young, Sweat, Higgins, and Adams before the trade deadline. I thought Fitt would be cut off by now. 

[Knaakedup]

2 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

I was surprised to hear we were inquiring about Young, Sweat, Higgins, and Adams before the trade deadline. I thought Fitt would be cut off by now. 

I am right there with you. 

That being said, it's amazing how nobody wanted to work with us (take us to the woodshed) when we have no more assets anyone wants or, for the first time, unwilling to pay more by treating draft picks like candy.

[benz0]

Love me some CJ Stroud and Texans Houston!!! Woot woot!!!

[Ricky Spanish]

35 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

his best wr was a 7th round pick from 2017, I am pretty goddamn sure stroud can elevate just about any team at this point

• Nico Collins is their #1, a third year 3rd rounder out of Michigan. He has over 600 yards receiving on the year and better than anyone we have (and who I personally had on my radar as a breakout candidate - I have had him stashed on my keeper league roster for 3 years in FF now).
• Their #2 WR is the Rookie Tank Dell who is playing fantastic for a 5th rounder and looks better (and faster) Than any Receiver we currently have. 
• They also have Dalton Schultz at TE, a top 10 player at his position who I REALLY wanted us to target this offseason instead of Hayden Hurst.
• Noah Brown, The former 7th rounder you're talking about has played in 4 games this year.
• I don't know how good Bryce would look with the above mentioned guys but i'm pretty sure he'd look at least marginally better.

You have been completely disingenuous about the whole thing regarding Stroud ever since we drafted Young. I get it, you wanted him, but go learn more about the team before you jump ship to be a Texans fan.