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14 minutes ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

You really gonna die on the Bryce hill. You’re just as bad a Bridgewater fans or Darnold fans. 
Refusing to see what is right in front of your face. 
Bryce is a below average QB that never should have been drafted where he was. 

Well unlike Bridgewater and Darnold, Bryce is, for the most part, going to be our QB for the next 3 years no matter what. Might as well believe until you can't, he ain't going nowhere.

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1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Here's the thing though. All those other guys went to the worst team in the league. A team that earned the #1 overall pick. We traded up from #9. And we gave up a LOT.

These things are not the same.

We had CMC, DJ Moore, and D Foreman last year to help accumulate wins.

Add OL and defensive injuries, and it’s hard to argue Bryce is playing on the worst team in the NFL. 

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What’s super laughable are the dissertations that we’re made from 1-2 throws in the first few games…that apparently showed how ready Bryce is. The kid just isn’t cutting the mustard. I like him as a dude but it is not looking promising, no matter the talent around him. He got lucky with 3 passes that should’ve been INTs tonight.

He doesn’t look big enough, vision isn’t there because of it, he can’t outrun linemen, he’s just so f*cking limited

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I see both sides of the BY argument:

A #1 pick who is a QB should be able to help elevate his team to a certain degree   BUT

when you have such a terrible head coach/OC/offensive line with no real game changing skill players it's probably difficult to do much of anything. 

If this isn't really what BY is all about he should just say fug it and start audibling to whatever play he wants even if that gets him put on the bench.  I'd rather see him try to push the ball downfield on his own accord than sit around and follow 90s Reich and clueless Brown's play calling.

Someone in the organization also needs to chew out our offensive line for being a NY turnstile...Moton included.

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4 hours ago, Bear Hands said:

I mean, what are we necessarily waiting for? A 200+ passing game? 2 wins? A single touchdown pass? 

The bar is dropping below the worst NFL expectations possible and it’s for a #1 overall pick and vet coach. It’s not too early to judge. This is the worst football we’ve ever seen.

 

As an expansion in our first year, we were better. 

 

Tepper has turned this into a typical expansion team, which we never were. At least we had that. No more. 

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6 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Here's the thing though. All those other guys went to the worst team in the league. A team that earned the #1 overall pick. We traded up from #9. And we gave up a LOT.

These things are not the same.

Exactly...we gave up A LOT including CMC and DJ Moore and who did we replace them with? You people talk like winning a few meaningless games at the end of last year some how made us a relevant team when we weren't. These situations with other #1 picks are a lot similar than what you people want to believe. All of those QBs had talent added around them on offense and low and behold they improved!!!! What an amazing concept!

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