Where I'm at midseason

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, PootieNunu said:

We have more of the run away from the ball kind of WRs and slow ass Thielen 

"Slow Ass Thielen" has been the best target we've had though.

[SmokinwithWilly]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I'd say the receiver spot could be an issue there as well.

What you want ideally in a WCO is a set of receivers who have great run after the catch ability.

I don't see very much of that on our team.

So why build an offensive scheme for players you don't have? It doesn't make much sense. 

[PootieNunu]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

"Slow Ass Thielen" has been the best target we've had though.

Yea the only knock on him is he is old.  It would be great if he was just our slot with a legit #1 WR on the outside.  Thats why I didnt lump him in with the run away from the ball  guys. 

[ForJimmy]

6 minutes ago, CRA said:

it's weird, it's almost like coaches and teams just sell you a bunch of bologna publicly they want you to believe.  Not that it's all rooted in truth.  So maybe you can't put much stock in their words. 

I got this weird deja vu feeling. 

lol yeah without a doubt to a degree.  There are always some elements of playing to strengths in every roster.  AT moving to the slot vs outside would be an example, moving to a 3-4 for Brown and Burns is another.  Overlooking the skillset of his OL is by far the biggest mistake he has made this offseason.  Lying about who helped design a playbook though would have no advantage whether it be PR or hype about the team.  That's when things overblown by us fans and legit complaints get lumped into nonsense ones.   

[PootieNunu]

1 minute ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

So why build an offensive scheme for players you don't have? It doesn't make much sense. 

Maybe because your hand was forced on which QB to select.....other than that its utter incompetency by guys with 50+ years of combined nfl exp??

You pick. 

[SmokinwithWilly]

6 minutes ago, PootieNunu said:

Maybe because your hand was forced on which QB to select.....other than that its utter incompetency by guys with 50+ years of combined nfl exp??

You pick. 

Can't it be both

[CRA]

9 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

 Lying about who helped design a playbook though would have no advantage whether it be PR or hype about the team. 

Sure, it does. 

because they hired Thomas Brown and the initial setup in reality was he wasn't being employed as a real NFL OC.  Frank was the OC for practical purposes. So to make Thomas Brown sound the best possible.....you overstate things he is involved with.   To make him look good and sound good.  It's all PR.  Nothing wrong with it.  Which is why I don't cherry pick that one instance out as nefarious lying.  They have sold much bigger bologna than that sugar coated version to hype Brown's job/role. 

That's what saying Thomas Brown built this playbook from the ground up does...it overstates and overplays what he is and did.   To make him look good. And that is the business.  For everyone.   It's not about lying.  It's just PR to sound good.  Reality is he never built it from the ground up.  He took Frank Reich playbook.  Because the base of the playbook was going to be Frank's....and added to it. But that doesn't sound as good when looking/talking about Thomas Brown.  The newb OC who wasn't even allowed to call plays when he came here. 

So it's a word game.  I just acknowledge it's a 24/7 PR game for essentially all teams. 

[Mr. Scot]

Another quick FYI...

Regarding that hit, this from the guy on the receiving end...

 

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, CRA said:

Sure, it does. 

because they hired Thomas Brown and the initial setup in reality was he wasn't being employed as a real NFL OC.  Frank was the OC for practical purposes. So to make Thomas Brown sound the best possible.....you overstate things he is involved with.   To make him look good and sound good.  It's all PR.  Nothing wrong with it.  Which is why I don't cherry pick that one instance out as nefarious lying.  They have sold much bigger bologna than that sugar coated version to hype Brown's job/role. 

That's what saying Thomas Brown built this playbook from the ground up does...it overstates and overplays what he is and did.   To make him look good. And that is the business.  For everyone.   It's not about lying.  It's just PR to sound good.  Reality is he never built it from the ground up.  He took Frank Reich playbook.  Because the base of the playbook was going to be Frank's....and added to it. But that doesn't sound as good when looking at Thomas Brown.  So it's a word game. 

someone owes you an apology from last week

[Billy Love]

4 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

 

A lot of the people who would have been able to give well thought out opinions have left because the "everything sucks" people are running rampant and torpedo any intelligent discussion right off the bat.

[Mr. Scot]

A bit of good news....

 

[ForJimmy]

2 minutes ago, CRA said:

Sure, it does. 

because they hired Thomas Brown and the initial setup in reality was he wasn't being employed as a real NFL OC.  Frank was the OC for practical purposes. So to make Thomas Brown sound the best possible.....you overstate things he is involved with.   To make him look good and sound good.  It's all PR.  Nothing wrong with it.  Which is why I don't cherry pick that one instance out as nefarious lying.  They have sold much bigger bologna than that sugar coated version to hype Brown's job/role. 

That's what saying Thomas Brown built this playbook from the ground up does...it overstates and overplays what he is and did.   To make him look good. And that is the business.  For everyone.   It's not about lying.  It's just PR to sound good.  Reality is he never built it from the ground up.  He took Frank Reich playbook.  Because the base of the playbook was going to be Frank's....and added to it. But that doesn't sound as good when looking/talking about Thomas Brown.  The newb OC who wasn't even allowed to call plays when he came here. 

So it's a word game.  I just acknowledge it's a 24/7 PR game for essentially all teams. 

Yeah see this is where it starts sounding crazy.  All of this for something your average fan doesn't really care about.  Coaches exaggerating how good his players are/his coaching it makes sense and happens all the time.  Hell they SHOULD do this to a degree to give their team confidence.  What you are talking ab out looks like this...

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, ForJimmy said:

Yeah see this is where it starts sounding crazy.  All of this for something your average fan doesn't really care about.  Coaches exaggerating how good his players are/his coaching it makes sense and happens all the time.  Hell they SHOULD do this to a degree to give their team confidence.  What you are talking ab out looks like this...

Yeah, not going down that road again

There's actually a lot of good discussion being had here. Not gonna derail it responding to that kind of silliness.

[ForJimmy]

What if I told you are zone OL blocking scheme is very similar to the one McVay runs in LAR where Brown learned?  People were excited about Corbet coming back because he is familiar with it from his time there.