Raiders fire their leadership

[raleigh-panther]

3 hours ago, OldhamA said:

I feel like I'm living in a parallel universe. 

We won 7 games with f'in Steve Wilks, the much maligned Sam Darnold and PJ Walker last season.

How are expectations now "well it's a first year coach and a rookie QB (that we sold the f'in farm for), so be happy with getting your ass kicked every week"??!?!?!?

Wilks was smart enough to know that all that offense side of the ball knew how to deal well was run 

the oline was set up for power running 

they had a poor veteran qb and only one decent receiver 

this year.  Different staff. Different scheme still bad receivers and average RBs and a rookie qb and an oline that requires zone blocking when it was assembled for power run   

net Wilks worked with what he had until he could do better  Reich and company has done a scheme change tegardl ss of personnel

so, here we are 

you know these things 

 

[Mr. Scot]

And apparently it ain't over...

Wow

[Mr. Scot]

McDaniels makes history, but not the good kind...

Also, an update on an old friend of ours...

I didn't actually remember that he was with the Raiders.

[TLGPanthersFan]

51 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I'd forgotten about the Colts thing.

Technically this was McDaniels' third head coaching opportunity. He just bailed on his second one

He that is how Reich got hired. Reich wasn’t ever the Colts first choice. 

[Mr. Scot]

5 minutes ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

He that is how Reich got hired. Reich wasn’t ever the Colts first choice. 

Yep, and he retained the majority of McDaniels staff rather than fire them and forcw them to have to find new jobs.

[Carl Spackler]

2 hours ago, Varking said:

Frank is 5-0 after the bye.

The anti-Ron

[CarolinaRideorDie]

9 hours ago, Knaakedup said:

At least Davis has the real balls to do what needs to be done - admit his mistake and cut his losses. 
 

This is what the brass balls guy needs to do with Reich and Fit

Just because Davis has the balls to fire his HC and GM doesn't mean he's been a great owner. Raiders have been one of the most poorly run franchises recently. Gruden, McDaniels, Mike Mayock, poor drafting, racism allegations, Henry Ruggs, Jamarcus Russell, etc. Oh and his haircut doesn't help him. 

[gofightwin]

4 hours ago, OldhamA said:

I feel like I'm living in a parallel universe. 

We won 7 games with f'in Steve Wilks, the much maligned Sam Darnold and PJ Walker last season.

How are expectations now "well it's a first year coach and a rookie QB (that we sold the f'in farm for), so be happy with getting your ass kicked every week"??!?!?!?

If you haven't noticed...only a handful of "that" team are on this offense.  New QB, RB, TE1, WR1/WR2/WR3, OG1/OG2.

[Knaakedup]

15 minutes ago, CarolinaRideorDie said:

Just because Davis has the balls to fire his HC and GM doesn't mean he's been a great owner. Raiders have been one of the most poorly run franchises recently. Gruden, McDaniels, Mike Mayock, poor drafting, racism allegations, Henry Ruggs, Jamarcus Russell, etc. Oh and his haircut doesn't help him. 

Never said he was a great owner and not meant to draw parallels to Tepper. The only point here is that we made a bad hire and the GM is poo, the quicker they get shown the door, the quicker we can officially get this going in the right direction. 

[UnluckyforSome]

1 hour ago, joemac said:

Isn't the story with the Colts/JM thing that Jim Irsay acted so weird around McDaniel and his wife, at their home, that they were like "nope".  Like Irsay went to the bathroom and stayed in there for like an hour or some poo lmao?

It takes time to sort and swallow a handful of pills. 

I've always liked the story that came out about Al Davis' interview of Kiffin. He suggested they keep talking over dinner and sent someone out to get a big bag of regular McDonalds cheeseburgers for the two of them.

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, UnluckyforSome said:

It takes time to sort and swallow a handful of pills. 

I've always liked the story that came out about Al Davis' interview of Kiffin. He suggested they keep talking over dinner and sent someone out to get a big bag of regular McDonalds cheeseburgers for the two of them.

I think Mrs McDaniels implication was that Irsay might have been doing...other things

That was my impression anyway. Could be wrong.

[joemac]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I think Mrs McDaniels implication was that Irsay might have been doing...other things

That was my impression anyway. Could be wrong.

Jacking off?

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, joemac said:

Jacking off?

Possibly

Again, it's Irsay so who knows?

[BeenPounding]

2 hours ago, Castavar said:

It looks even worse for them. Bisaccia actually got his team in the playoffs as an interim.

I will say this like I've said before, it wasn't the wrong move to move on from Wilks, it was the wrong move to hire a retread coach instead of a young promising offensive mind like Steichen (whom Tepper didn't like because of his zoom call lol). If we were just going to hire Reich, you should have just kept Wilks. We are in that Browns, Raiders, Cardinals tier of bad franchises now.

I agree 100%.... but here it where I differ slightly.....

Rhule had no creditability. Once Wilks took over, he inserted an attitude for the team through accountability and leadership.  Frank really hasn't proven to be that type of a leader.  He has professional credentials that Rhule never had, but his age gap from the players is becoming evident.  Players need to be inspired and feel like their leader can relate and is relevant to them.  Mike McDaniels, DeMeco Ryanes, Mike Tomlin are perfect examples all in different forms.

I would offer Frank a front office position at the end of the season.  Truly, I believe Frank can offer value to the franchise.  I just don't see it on the sideline on Sundays.  His best fit may just be as a football advisor to Tepper.  Frank cares about the franchise and may excell in that type of role.

I would promote Evero to HC.  Allow Brown to work for an entire year to build up his experience and create a true rapport with Bryce.  Evero is a leader.  He's intelligent, young, and a teacher.  In my opinion, he is a cross between Tomlin and McDaniels.  Heck Capers can call the plays with Evero's direction.

As far as Fitt is concerned.... I dunno really what to say.  The last few draft classes have been terrible, and he has depleted our assets without any return on his investments.  He needs to go.  Where that puts Dan Morgan is unclear I would roll with him, but invest in someone who knows the draft as an assistant GM.