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Why did Delhomme suck so bad this year?

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PanthersFanInGA Newbie

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Delhomme is just so damn inconsistent. I do respect him as a player and he has done great for us overall in his entire career here at Carolina. It sucks to see that he is going to be remembered for his downfall and not his accomplishments. I think alot of folks fail to realize that the surgery took a big affect on him. He was the only QB to come back from a surgery like that and you got to give him credit for playing at all. I think his age, along with the surgery have brought him down. It's just not his time anymore.

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He was not all that great in 08 but cause we played a week schedule and the fact we has such good backs you didn't see much of it till Playoffs. His accuracy has just been horrible since his surgery and that's just not gonna get better. His decision making did fall off but that was less of a factor then not being able to hit the WR when needed.

I think you kind of touched on something when you said that we didn't get to see a whole lot of him passing during the regular season. We spent most of that time running over teams and that's how we got to the playoffs basically. I remember an announcer asking John Fox about his expectations for the offense going into 2009, he said something in the manner of, "You run the ball with DW and J-Stew, and then you take your shots down field to Smith..." and that's exactly it. Fox would take shots down field, gambles if you will. Then once Matt Moore took over the helm, Fox now realizes what a correct on target pass looks like.

The affect of the surgery and the devastating losses he has had to endure over the past two seasons has taken it's toll. Now it's time to move on, simple as that. I hope Delhomme stays as a backup though, cause I have a feeling we'll need a vet.

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Did you even saw how he play in 2007 before the surgery? He was playing very well & likely would has a good season until that game at Atlanta end it. :rolleyes:

Wasn't that the year we opened against Houston and Smitty caught one ball in the end zone which he tipped to himself and the other one was a 5 yard pass in which he broke 7 tackles to score a 70 yard TD.

Yeah, Delhomme was very good that year.

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A few observations about Jake, stated on these boards before by yours truly. He's never been gifted in the 'mechanics department'. He has improved a little bit in the play-action pass, but he still has a tendency to 'fake' a handoff on a passing play when there's no one behind him to fake to, thus fooling no one.

His biggest 'sin' is his lack of looking off his receivers, i.e., performing the standard progressions a successful QB must perform, regardless of the type of offense they're in. Jake's propensity to 'lock in' on his intended receiver is well known, and other teams have become more and more successful in taking advantage of that.

Jake's 'psyche' is in tatters. It is obvious that he has never recovered from the Cardinals playoff debacle in the '08 postseason. The minute something happened that could be perceived as negative for the team at any given moment in a game this past season, the "Oh crap" mentality became apparent, in him and the rest of the team. Everyone seemed to assume that one turnover would lead to another, and it usually did. You watch someone like Favre, he'll throw an INT and want the ball back to make up for it. The INT he threw against the Saints last week may no doubt fuel his desire to come back. Jake lacks that. I don't think Jake's age is an issue as long as he keeps himself in shape, it's his attitude and mental makeup. Until he overcomes that fear of believing one mistake will lead to another, he won't be a playoff caliber QB again, for us or anyone else. And he WAS such a QB not that long ago.

This team did believe in him at one time, and he delivered. He's a good guy and the players like him, and have shared success with him, and sometimes it was because of him. Jake has proved to be a good leader in the past, but that's based on performance. I hope he rediscovers that before he hangs them up.

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Lumps Newbie

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I think Delhomme is so obvious simply because he was never that good in the first place and fans disillusioned themselves into thinking they had more than an average QB when in fact what they had was a stout defense and a record breaking run game. Not to mention Smitty. Saying that Jake could have gone without Smith is impossible. Jake was never good. Now he is older, his receivers are a bit older. He has gone through a surgery along with a mental breakdown. The end result is a QB who really wasn't all that great go downhill. That is going to be a lot more noticeable than a QB who at least had something. Jake has been surrounded with talent. This year the panther slightly lacked at the WR position an Jake didn't have his perfect O-line show up like they used to and he crumbled beyond the speed at which one would assume a starter's talent would.

What really hurts me the most is remembering the Arizona game and then the contract that came right after. He had a crap season as a passer and a BOMBED playoff game. I do somewhat blame the coaching staff. They never let Jake throw it the whole season. If we had, the Arizona game would have come a lot sooner, ending Jake. Then the panthers wouldn't have given the contract. Sometimes I think they tried not to call throw for Jake, knowing it wouldn't work. But why in the Arizona game? Cause in the playoffs you have to be more than one dimensional. There isn't a lot of passing needed with double trouble but running it on 3rd and 10 is a bit extreme.

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No way to know what he would have done.

Just like some of you guys saying if Moore was the starter after the Eagles game, our record would've been better. Ironic there. Beside, Jake has 8 TDs & 2 (I know it's either 1 or 2) INT. in '07. Even many folks who weren't fans of him said he is looking better during that. :P

I think Delhomme is so obvious simply because he was never that good in the first place and fans disillusioned themselves into thinking they had more than an average QB when in fact what they had was a stout defense and a record breaking run game.

Fans disillusioned themselves? Way to call out fans as stupid there. Sorry, but they weren't disillusioned. He was good in the first place before the surgery. You ever saw how he did in '04 season when we lost 14 starters & how good Colbert look in his rookie season before he started sucking after that & beyond? He was still playing good without Smitty there & playing very good in the '07 season before he has the Tommy Johns surgery.

And yes we has a stout defense & a record breaking run game even in the Superbowl season, but Jake was also good at that time. Why else Peete was pulled in that Jacksonville game & Jake was named the starter? How did we won the Division Playoffs against the Rams? Exactly. You guys can say he suck & all right now which is fine, but it sad some are so blind & biased that they refuse to give credit where it's due. At least I give credit where it go than some blind & biased haters do. :D

Not to mention Smitty. Saying that Jake could have gone without Smith is impossible.

You ever saw how we did in '04 when Smitty was done for the season & winning 2 first games without him last year? Yeah, that was impossible. :rolleyes:

Jake was never good.

Your opinion. The proof said you're incorrect. We might never gone to the Playoffs & the Superbowl in the past without him. I'm not talking about the Cards Playoffs though. I'm refering to before that.

The end result is a QB who really wasn't all that great go downhill. That is going to be a lot more noticeable than a QB who at least had something.

Had something? You mean winning few Playoffs games & the NFC Championship?

Jake has been surrounded with talent.

Of course he has been surrounded with talents. So has all QBs in the NFL. Isn't that the point & how you win games? Even when 14 starters was out in '04, we was able to recover from 1-7 & start winning many games in the row with Jake leading them to it. A sucky QB can't do that, not even Carr.

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Lumps Newbie

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Your opinion. The proof said you're incorrect.

pdude I didn't bother to read another one of your long creepy boring posts that seem strangely a little too personal and over-emotional about everything. You should get out more.

Also for the feeling whether Jake was ever good or not, I posted my opinion as you stated. It's impossible for my opinion to be wrong. You should just accept it.

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