C.J. Stroud: I don’t think Bryce Young is playing badly in any way, aspect, or form

[Move the Panthers to Raleigh]

6 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

I'm convinced Josh McCown was the only coach on the staff who wanted CJ Stroud.

 

 

Promote him to HC then

[OldhamA]

0-7 says otherwise. 

[ForJimmy]

1 minute ago, OldhamA said:

0-7 says otherwise. 

Yeah one is looking at his play through the eyes of a fellow professional QB at the highest level and the other is looking at it through the eyes of an upset fan who just wants a win.  It's all about perspective.  

[Varking]

1 minute ago, ForJimmy said:

Yeah one is looking at his play through the eyes of a fellow professional QB at the highest level and the other is looking at it through the eyes of an upset fan who just wants a win.  It's all about perspective.  

Wins and losses, to me, aren’t a QB stat anyway. You can ball out and lose or some games you can play like trash and win. 

[OldhamA]

2 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Yeah one is looking at his play through the eyes of a fellow professional QB at the highest level and the other is looking at it through the eyes of an upset fan who just wants a win.  It's all about perspective.  

Or he's just coming to the defence of his close friend. 

I'm no longer an upset fan - I'm genuinely rooting for us to go 0-17 because I think it'd be hilarious and entirely warranted. 

[ForJimmy]

1 minute ago, Varking said:

Wins and losses, to me, aren’t a QB stat anyway. You can ball out and lose or some games you can play like trash and win. 

Jimmy G is showing us your exact point.  On the Niners with an elite defense, running game, OL, and weapons he was winning a lot.  You take away some of those things like he is missing on the Raiders and wins don't come so easily.

[ForJimmy]

Just now, OldhamA said:

Or he's just coming to the defence of his close friend. 

I'm no longer an upset fan - I'm genuinely rooting for us to go 0-17 because I think it'd be hilarious and entirely warranted. 

He went into extra detail which isn't needed.  Rodgers also said Young looks the part, Cam also said something similar.  

You can say you aren't upset about wins but the first response you had on here was our record and how it relates to our QB.  

[OldhamA]

4 minutes ago, Varking said:

Wins and losses, to me, aren’t a QB stat anyway. You can ball out and lose or some games you can play like trash and win. 

It's the most important position in professional sports. They have as big a hand in wins and losses as a starting pitcher in MLB - only they're on the mound every game. 

[Varking]

1 minute ago, OldhamA said:

It's the most important position in professional sports. They have as big a hand in wins and losses as a starting pitcher in MLB - only they're on the mound every game. 

And wins and losses are being viewed more and more as a pointless stat as time goes on. ERA is significantly more important. Giving up 10 runs a game but your team scoring 11 doesn’t make you a good pitcher. But your win-loss record would indicate you are. 
 

Hence why in recent times people like deGrom have won Cy Young awards over pitcher with a bunch more wins than them. 

Edited October 26, 2023 by Varking

[CPF4LIFE]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I don't know about all that. I hope that my buddy plays well but that I play better and we beat them seems to be a perfectly reasonable, charitable, and consistent viewpoint.

Yes....IN THE PUBLIC. 

[ForJimmy]

2 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

Yes....IN THE PUBLIC. 

Nah I agree with LG.  A shootout against your friend with you having the game winning drive would be perfect.  Strong competitors like strong competition.  They want to go against the best performing at their best and beat them.  

[frankw]

I don't doubt he wants his very good friend to play well and thinks highly of him. Privately though I have to imagine Stroud and his family are taking some level of comfort in the fact the Panthers have been a complete mess and he avoided that. He should be highly motivated entering this game. We should as well. We better not lay another egg. We need Bryce Young looking like a #1 pick.

Edited October 26, 2023 by frankw

[CPF4LIFE]

7 minutes ago, frankw said:

I don't doubt he wants his very good friend to play well and thinks highly of him. Privately though I have to imagine Stroud and his family are taking some level of comfort in the fact the Panthers have been a complete mess and he avoided that. He should be highly motivated entering this game. We should as well. We better not lay another egg. We need Bryce Young looking like a #1 pick.

Thats the point. To think he actually feels sorry or remorse for whats going on here and bryce is delusional. These players all have that edge and want to show why teams shouldn't have passed on them. All that matters is his performance and getting his team. Who cares whats going on with the Bryce and panthers. That matters nothing once the game starts. 

[Shocker]

We picked the right guy, of course Cam talked like this his entire time here so…there’s that

Edited October 26, 2023 by Shocker