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Next two years, strike while the irons hot

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We don’t even know if we have the right people in place to put these moves in motion 

what op stated is exactly right, but for some reason the guys getting paid millions can’t 

team doesn’t have an identity and there isn’t really anything to build on with this roster besides the qb, who still has questions marks. 
 

 

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Ridder is .500 as a starter in his first 10 games. Not even a full season. 4 of the 5 wins have been GWD by Ridder. That means his coaches, defense & running game failed while putting it on his shoulders. 4/9 GWD is 44.4%. Mahomes is 46.9%. Brady is 41.4%.

The other NFC South QBs are Carr 28.5%, Mayfield 18.4% & Young 0.0%.

Former Panther QBs are Darnold 12.8%, Walker 25.0%, Bridgewater 18.0%, Allen 7.7%, Newton 22.5%, Clausen 0.0%, Delhomme 37.5%, Testaverde 21.0%, Peete 25%, Weinke 5.3%, Beuerlein 22.5% & Collins 23.3%.

The QB room coaches/players are Reich 11.8%, McCown 11.7% & Dalton 26.6%.

Bad QBs are below 10%, Average QBs are 10% to 20%. Good QBs are 20 to 25%. Playoff QBs are 25% to 30%. Championship QBs are 30% to 40%. Elite QBs are 40%+.

You will know a QBs value at 20 GWD opportunities. The best QBs in the NFL with careers that stretch a decade are lucky to get 100 GWD opportunities. Carr, Testaverde, Collins & Dalton are among the top 25 QBs of all time when it comes to GWD. Delhomme is tied for 34th.

This will give you perspective to the quick & brutal path of an NFL QB. Young is already 25% of the way to his final evaluation. To pace, I expect at least 1 GWD every 5 opportunities (even for rookies). A QB is expendable if they don't keep this pace.

Young is not keeping pace with Carr or Dalton as rookie QBs. He is not keeping pace with any of the QBs in their rookie seasons listed above - even expansion & worst teams in NFL history. The hope is he turns it around quick because it's not a pit QBs will dig themselves out of in the NFL. Winners always show themselves capable early in their career when they still struggle.

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1 hour ago, CPantherKing said:

Ridder is .500 as a starter in his first 10 games. Not even a full season. 4 of the 5 wins have been GWD by Ridder. That means his coaches, defense & running game failed while putting it on his shoulders. 4/9 GWD is 44.4%. Mahomes is 46.9%. Brady is 41.4%.

The other NFC South QBs are Carr 28.5%, Mayfield 18.4% & Young 0.0%.

Former Panther QBs are Darnold 12.8%, Walker 25.0%, Bridgewater 18.0%, Allen 7.7%, Newton 22.5%, Clausen 0.0%, Delhomme 37.5%, Testaverde 21.0%, Peete 25%, Weinke 5.3%, Beuerlein 22.5% & Collins 23.3%.

The QB room coaches/players are Reich 11.8%, McCown 11.7% & Dalton 26.6%.

Bad QBs are below 10%, Average QBs are 10% to 20%. Good QBs are 20 to 25%. Playoff QBs are 25% to 30%. Championship QBs are 30% to 40%. Elite QBs are 40%+.

You will know a QBs value at 20 GWD opportunities. The best QBs in the NFL with careers that stretch a decade are lucky to get 100 GWD opportunities. Carr, Testaverde, Collins & Dalton are among the top 25 QBs of all time when it comes to GWD. Delhomme is tied for 34th.

This will give you perspective to the quick & brutal path of an NFL QB. Young is already 25% of the way to his final evaluation. To pace, I expect at least 1 GWD every 5 opportunities (even for rookies). A QB is expendable if they don't keep this pace.

Young is not keeping pace with Carr or Dalton as rookie QBs. He is not keeping pace with any of the QBs in their rookie seasons listed above - even expansion & worst teams in NFL history. The hope is he turns it around quick because it's not a pit QBs will dig themselves out of in the NFL. Winners always show themselves capable early in their career when they still struggle.

Most don’t want to hear it, but he wears the bust title well. He really shows no signs or carrying a team on his back at this level.  

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9 hours ago, CPantherKing said:

Ridder is .500 as a starter in his first 10 games. Not even a full season. 4 of the 5 wins have been GWD by Ridder. That means his coaches, defense & running game failed while putting it on his shoulders. 4/9 GWD is 44.4%. Mahomes is 46.9%. Brady is 41.4%.

The other NFC South QBs are Carr 28.5%, Mayfield 18.4% & Young 0.0%.

Former Panther QBs are Darnold 12.8%, Walker 25.0%, Bridgewater 18.0%, Allen 7.7%, Newton 22.5%, Clausen 0.0%, Delhomme 37.5%, Testaverde 21.0%, Peete 25%, Weinke 5.3%, Beuerlein 22.5% & Collins 23.3%.

The QB room coaches/players are Reich 11.8%, McCown 11.7% & Dalton 26.6%.

Bad QBs are below 10%, Average QBs are 10% to 20%. Good QBs are 20 to 25%. Playoff QBs are 25% to 30%. Championship QBs are 30% to 40%. Elite QBs are 40%+.

You will know a QBs value at 20 GWD opportunities. The best QBs in the NFL with careers that stretch a decade are lucky to get 100 GWD opportunities. Carr, Testaverde, Collins & Dalton are among the top 25 QBs of all time when it comes to GWD. Delhomme is tied for 34th.

This will give you perspective to the quick & brutal path of an NFL QB. Young is already 25% of the way to his final evaluation. To pace, I expect at least 1 GWD every 5 opportunities (even for rookies). A QB is expendable if they don't keep this pace.

Young is not keeping pace with Carr or Dalton as rookie QBs. He is not keeping pace with any of the QBs in their rookie seasons listed above - even expansion & worst teams in NFL history. The hope is he turns it around quick because it's not a pit QBs will dig themselves out of in the NFL. Winners always show themselves capable early in their career when they still struggle.

You are hyperfocusing on a rather small part of the picture. If you simply watch him play it's very evident that he is not anywhere near an average NFL QB.

He may eventually blossom into an average or even above average guy but that isn't the case through 10 games.

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