Can Bryce Young throw deep?

[Newtcase]

12 minutes ago, Loyalty4Life said:

Then at least give me a link.  Can you do that.  I've asked Google.  I've asked Bing.  I even asked Santa Claus.

Tell me why he doesn't have the ability to throw deep.  Tell me why he has only attempted 1 pass over 30 yards.  That's why I can't show you him doing in the NFL.  He's has barely attempted it. 

WHY!!!!!!!

So the most direct answer is he isn't attempting to throw shots very often.  He's only attempted 7 passes beyond 20 air yards and he's only completed two of those.  

I know all you apologist want to blame coaching, play calling and our receivers for his lack of deep shots.  So when its pointed out to you that Dalton went of 5 of 7 on such throws in week 3 with the same staff, line, and receivers you all just act like Seattle is a high school defense.  While still conveniently dismissing that Minnesota was a shitty defense that we played at home as well.  

Beyond that, great resources have looked at the 7 deep shots Bryce has taken and concluded that he isn't even giving his receivers a chance. I could make clips, but it's already there, again by sources more reputable than me.

You're just a lazy apologist with no real excuse for why Bryce can't complete a downfield pass so you defend your defenseless position by shifting the burden of proof to someone else knowing they don't want to waste their time arguing with your ignorant ass.

Mic drop and you're blocked.

Edited October 18, 2023 by Newtcase

[Newtcase]

9 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Unlike you Young bashers, I'm not afraid to admit anything. Young has looked skiddish out there, but it's not because he can't throw deep, it's because he's a rookie whose head is still spinning and who needs to learn and adjust to the speed of the game. The play calling hasn't done him (or any of our guys) any favors really. The protection hasn't been the greatest, which is also causing him to run around like a chicken with its head chopped off, and that's also made Bryce gun shy and prone to some dumb mistakes. He's made some mistakes from the beginning, like throwing two INTs in basically the same fashion to the same guy, and trying to get away instead of chucking the ball out of bounds, and I'm sure that hasn't helped his confidence either. There's more, but with all that, he seems to be getting more comfortable, protecting the ball better and slowly learning what he can and can't get away with at this level. With more experience, line play and schemes to get other receivers more involved, hopefully we'll see more improvement.

I respect this response and don't disagree with you at all.  You can check my post history.  I have praised the progress I saw from Young against Miami early.  I'm just not going to pretend like he's doing things he hasn't.

Edited October 18, 2023 by Newtcase

[top dawg]

12 minutes ago, frankw said:

 

And, that's not supporting Tepper, that's stating the obvious. Who gives a flying fug about Tepper's failed business agreement with Rock Hill. That's hardly even football related. It's not materially important to the successful operation of a football team. There's plenty of stuff to talk about and be upset with Tepper about that directly speaks to why we're sucking right now (like hiring Matt Rhule and giving him full control) than his fuging vanity project in Rock Hill.

You lied. And you're still lying. You really lied about D.J. Moore too, but that's more arguable (but, I hated him so much that I drafted him on my fantasy team). Here, it's not arguable. I was never a Tepper apologist, and your insinuation that I was is a flat out lie.

Edited October 18, 2023 by top dawg

[frankw]

Just now, top dawg said:

And, that's not supporting Tepper, that's stating the obvious. Who gives a flying fug about Tepper's failed business agreement with Rock Hill. That's hardly even football related. It's not materially important to the successful operation of a football team. There's plenty of stuff to talk about and be upset with Tepper about that directly speaks to why we're sucking right now (like hiring Matt Rhule and giving him full control), and his fuging vanity project in Rock Hill ain't one of them.

You lied. And you're still lying. You really lied about D.J. Moore too, but that's more arguable (but, I hated him so much that I drafted him on my fantasy team). Here, it's not arguable. I was never a Tepper apologist, and your insinuation that I was is a flat out lie.

You're mad and flailing. You crapped on DJ Moore every chance you got for not being a number one receiver but would turn around stick up for Robbie Anderson. Just comically bad takes.

[top dawg]

Just now, frankw said:

You're mad and flailing. You crapped on DJ Moore every chance you got for not being a number one receiver but would turn around stick up for Robbie Anderson. Just comically bad takes.

Liar!

[top dawg]

1 minute ago, frankw said:

You're mad and flailing. You crapped on DJ Moore every chance you got for not being a number one receiver but would turn around stick up for Robbie Anderson. Just comically bad takes.

You know, I don't have to listen to your lying bullshit. You're a troll, and that's how I'm going to treat you.

[frankw]

2 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Liar!

 

Just now, top dawg said:

You know, I don't have to listen to your lying bullshit. You're a troll, and that's how I'm going to treat you.

Don't go to bed angry buddy. You got any soothing nature sounds? Sleep on it and get back to me.

[top dawg]

1 minute ago, frankw said:

 

Don't go to bed angry buddy. You got any soothing nature sounds? Sleep on it and get back to me.

I'd rather just put you on ignore. It will make my Huddle experience so much better.

[Jackie Lee]

His deep passes at his pro day were lackluster at best and if he'd thrown at the combine beside CJ and AR it would have been very clear he's not in their league physically. Easy for coaches to recalibrate their brains and think his pro day arm was "good enough" if Tepper and generic media was pushing the narative that he's some braniac

[frankw]

1 minute ago, top dawg said:

I'd rather just put you on ignore. It will make my Huddle experience so much better.

I needed these laughs. I appreciate you top dawg.

[WUnderhill]

Looking at those clips:

Can we keep the trade for Jameson Williams talk going?

Any of those Alabama offensive linemen looking for work?

[top dawg]

1 minute ago, Jackie Lee said:

His deep passes at his pro day were lackluster at best and if he'd thrown at the combine beside CJ and AR it would have been very clear he's not in their league physically. Easy for coaches to recalibrate their brains and think his pro day arm was "good enough" if Tepper and generic media was pushing the narative that he's some braniac

I mean, that's the game. He was already in the top spot (even Houston's), so why should he have hurt that? The world already knew that he wasn't in their league physically.

I'm not gonna argue his pro day. Scouts had been scouting him for years. It's not a Zach Wilson case where people became enamored over a few passes during his pro day sending his stock skyward. Bryce's stock was already off the charts, and, sure, his football IQ was a marked reason why.

[Eric4280]

“I want _____ but I’ll support our guy” is the biggest crock of bull spewed on this website.

[Newtcase]

This all annoying to me because I just want to discuss what we’re seeing week to week.  But too many posters here want to weave the imaginary into the conversation as if it were an equal to reality.  I’m no BY hater.  If he does well I’ll cheer and hope for more and talk about it.  If he plays suspect I’m going to talk about that.  I’m just tired of talking in paradigms about shoulda/coulda/woulda.