QB School - Bryce Young vs Miami

[ForJimmy]

18 minutes ago, Newtcase said:

Vikings and Lions are both suspect passing defenses.

Also, not all defensive performances are equal.  Anyone with eyeballs knows that Seattle game was one of the toughest defensive tests of the year.

Ace using this as a defense is so lazy it borders on trolling except he’s not.

Nah Seattle has a weak secondary and were missing several players vs us. Ace is right. 

[AceBoogie]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

These clowns thought their "point guard" could make below average weapons serviceable. It's the opposite. You need weapons to lift this type of QB up.

I’d argue all QBs need weapons. Tua did, Josh Allen did, Herbert walked into weapons. Who’s the QB that’s making it work without a star WR?

[Aussie Tank]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

These clowns thought their "point guard" could make below average weapons serviceable. It's the opposite. You need weapons to lift this type of QB up.

You need weapons to lift every QB up. Sure there’s flash in the pan seasons like Cam in 2015 but every consistently good QB has good to great weapons 

[Tbe]

Just now, AceBoogie said:

I’d argue all QBs need weapons. Tua did, Josh Allen did, Herbert walked into weapons. Who’s the QB that’s making it work without a star WR?

Exactly. Who was the last QB that won anything without some very good WRs? Cam? Brady?

[BrisbanePanther]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

These clowns thought their "point guard" could make below average weapons serviceable. It's the opposite. You need weapons to lift this type of QB up.

Don't disagree. The irony is that that was the kind of team the Huddle was looking before pre-draft trade, right? "Don't get a QB now", "we have too many holes", "build the team first and plug the rookie QB in later" were all common points. They overestimated their surrounding talent--that part is clear, but they honestly seemed to have thought they were at the "plug the rookie QB in" stage already. They clearly aren't there yet and Bryce is in a position at a point that he wasn't supposed to be. If he continues to improve despite all that, football people around the league will notice and his criticism will reduce.

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

I’d argue all QBs need weapons. Tua did, Josh Allen did, Herbert walked into weapons. Who’s the QB that’s making it work without a star WR?

They all do but I think Bryce probably needs a Tua or Purdy situation. Elite weapons all over the place with an offensive wunderkind Manning the play sheet. That's really hard to replicate.

[ForJimmy]

3 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

I’d argue all QBs need weapons. Tua did, Josh Allen did, Herbert walked into weapons. Who’s the QB that’s making it work without a star WR?

Mahomes, but he has Kelce. Honestly it might be Stroud AKA he that shall not be named…

[BrisbanePanther]

1 minute ago, Tbe said:

Exactly. Who was the last QB that won anything without some very good WRs? Cam? Brady?

I did a whole post on this and was linked to meth use so...yeah.

[Aussie Tank]

1 minute ago, Tbe said:

Exactly. Who was the last QB that won anything without some very good WRs? Cam? Brady?

Having arguably the best TE at the time helped both Brady and Cam 

[Varking]

5 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Mahomes, but he has Kelce. Honestly it might be Stroud AKA he that shall not be named…

This, for right now. 

[Aussie Tank]

4 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Mahomes, but he has Kelce. Honestly it might be Stroud AKA he that shall not be named…

Don’t underestimate Shultz, Dell and Collins. The Texans were the Offence we thought we were just needed a QB dropped in for it all to work 

[Jackie Lee]

26 minutes ago, Newtcase said:

Vikings and Lions are both suspect passing defenses.

Also, not all defensive performances are equal.  Anyone with eyeballs knows that Seattle game was one of the toughest defensive tests of the year.

Ace using this as a defense is so lazy it borders on trolling except he’s not.

And where would the Vikings and Lions be ranked if Dalton played them? Seattle would be higher if Bryce played in that loud ass environment and put up about half of what Dalton did

[ForJimmy]

4 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

And where would the Vikings and Lions be ranked if Dalton played them? Seattle would be higher if Bryce played in that loud ass environment and put up about half of what Dalton did

There is no way to know that. Dalton looked good one game. How did he play last year with the Saints?

[ForJimmy]

6 minutes ago, Aussie Tank said:

Don’t underestimate Shultz, Dell and Collins. The Texans were the Offence we thought we were just needed a QB dropped in for it all to work 

A 3rd round rookie, average TE, and Collins was a JAG last year.