Stewart AND Willams

[Vegas Heel]

I guess you dont include that extra blocker as a reason for success. Both want to run right up the middle and gain big yards which requires an extra blocker, whether it be Hoover leading or an extra TE to help with stretch plays. So who would be the lead blocker in this scenario? How would this fool anyone? Its these ignorant suggestions that really grind my gears.

Yeah...I wouldn't necessarily see it as a running play unless Stew could lay out a linebacker w/ a block (which I think he could do)...but it would work for a fake/screen as I have suggested.

[Jangler]

Because that doesn't work in modern day NFL.

It does on Madden! :party:

[dksmith17]

Not sure I get what you are saying...your original point was that the split back wont work in the NFL. I know what the wildcat is.

I was asking you why you think the split won't work. IIRC some team are still using it...mostly west coast Os.

My point was not that split backs won't work in the NFL. My point was that RB/RB are rarely used in modern NFL. Split backs are used in west coast offenses(although not nearly as common now) with a RB/FB combo not a RB/RB combo. Lets not get confused here. NFL offenses are still in a 1 back system now, they just use 2 backs to get the job done and rotate them. The 1 back system is due to many reasons. I think the main reason is the offense simply taking advantage of matchups. The single back formation brings tight ends and WRs to the line and creates matchup problems with LBs in passing situations. The matchups with TEs and WRs on LBs forces safeties to come forward to stop the run and allows a weakness in deep passes. Hence, the popularity of the single back formations. Also, zone blocking schemes and advanced defenses have contributed to this shift. Basically you just got a lesson in the fundamentals of the Panthers offense, the #1 scoring team in the league the last 9 games. I will take that any day.

[Woodie]

I've seen it a couple of times this year. I can't remember exactly who (I'm thinking I saw the Saints do it a time or two, but I'm not 100% sure), but I do remember noticing when teams have lined up their top two RB's in the backfield instead of the FB. It might could work as a gimmick, and would definitely give us a lot of options. However, it also would take a dominant lead blocker out of the game, so it's not something you want to do very often.

[dksmith17]

I've seen it a couple of times this year. I can't remember exactly who (I'm thinking I saw the Saints do it a time or two, but I'm not 100% sure), but I do remember noticing when teams have lined up their top two RB's in the backfield instead of the FB. It might could work as a gimmick, and would definitely give us a lot of options. However, it also would take a dominant lead blocker out of the game, so it's not something you want to do very often.

Yes Bush was lined as a WR many times with Deuce as a RB. But does that really count? And we alll know where that got them.

[mountainpantherfan]

Why take the FB out of the equation. The Wishbone, Flexbone, Wing T and the Maryland I all use a three back set with variations of TE and WR combinations. Not to mention the original T Formation. Although most of these formations are now considered unaffective due to defensive developments, throughing one of these formations into the mix every now and would probably really confuse a defense that haven't seen any of these formations since high school.

[kboaman]

One thing that hurts this suggestion is that our backs have had trouble catching the ball this year....

[ChucktownK]

That's ballsy...no pun intended. I don't think ours have dropped yet.

[mountainpantherfan]

That's ballsy...no pun intended. I don't think ours have dropped yet.

Playoffs would be a perfect time for them to drop though...

[dksmith17]

One question:

Why change a thing?

Again, we are the #1 scoring team in the league the past 9 games but people still think they can make our offense better with unfounded suggestions from Madden video games. Weve had an historical season and people are still not satisfied. GEEZ

[VGcollector]

i remember seeing hoover and williams in deep back then rosario motion behind jake to make it look kinda like that i guess. wouldn't mind seeing it once in while

[Woodie]

Yes Bush was lined as a WR many times with Deuce as a RB. But does that really count? And we alll know where that got them.

Nope, that's not what I said. I said that a couple of times this year I saw teams line both backs in the backfield instead of the FB...and for the record, I consider Bush more WR than RB, so don't really consider him on the field at the same time as another RB to be gimmicky at all.

I couldn't tell you what specific plays were run from that formation, but the point is that it is not unheard of for teams to put both of their top two backs in the game at the same time. For the most part, it's a gimmick that's designed to make the defense guess what you are going to do. But like all gimmicks, it's not something you will, or should, see very often.

[Sword]

put dwill at the 3rd reciever spot and have stewart at RB for a couple of plays maybe...getting all of our playmakers on the field at one time might be a key to getting that ring..