If there was a re draft when would Young be taken?

[Varking]

If we are basing this off of long term potential and what they have shown for 6 weeks obviously Stroud goes 1, Jalen Carter goes much higher but Richardson needs reps and he might be out for the year. So wasted first season. So after Stroud are you gambling on your coaching staff being able to develop Bryce better than Carolina or are you picking Levis? I think Bryce still is the second off the board. 
 

Texans could be thinking “if we did this much with CJ let’s see what we can do with somebody more pro ready”. 

[ForJimmy]

16 minutes ago, Shotgun said:

Yes, but after seeing him play for 6 weeks in the NFL has his stock gone up or down? 

On the outside I would guess it has dropped, but people smarter than us are able to separate the player from the situation.  I'd say he is still a first rounder but who knows exactly where he falls.

[SmokinwithWilly]

11 minutes ago, Varking said:

If we are basing this off of long term potential and what they have shown for 6 weeks obviously Stroud goes 1, Jalen Carter goes much higher but Richardson needs reps and he might be out for the year. So wasted first season. So after Stroud are you gambling on your coaching staff being able to develop Bryce better than Carolina or are you picking Levis? I think Bryce still is the second off the board. 
 

Texans could be thinking “if we did this much with CJ let’s see what we can do with somebody more pro ready”. 

My concern for AR was always that he was going to try and be another Cam/Allen style of QB and run over defenders. Steichen better get a grip on that part of his game or he's going to be out a promising prospect if this keeps up. 

[Shotgun]

1 hour ago, Varking said:

He’d go second overall. He was the most pro ready QB in the draft per the draft experts so if we don’t take him 1, he goes 2. 

If there was a re draft, I think Chicago takes Stroud #1. I'm not sure what the Texans do but I doubt they take Young.

[Jay Roosevelt]

Still top-5 probably, but Stroud would be #1. He's shown more than a lot of people here want to admit.

[frankw]

Say what you want about the Bears and their mismanagement over the years but they sniffed around Bryce Young and decided they didn't need the pick if he was the top option.  Like it or not so far they have not been wrong in that assessment.

[Jay Roosevelt]

23 minutes ago, frankw said:

Say what you want about the Bears and their mismanagement over the years but they sniffed around Bryce Young and decided they didn't need the pick if he was the top option.  Like it or not so far they have not been wrong in that assessment.

They also could have had Stroud/Richardson. Bryce had nothing to do with it; they chose Justin Fields over all of the QBs.

[Shotgun]

Just now, Jay Roosevelt said:

They also could have had Stroud/Richardson. Bryce had nothing to do with it; they chose Justin Fields over all of the QBs.

they're choice would probably be different now

[mrcompletely11]

1 hour ago, ForJimmy said:

Agreed, just showing they were high on him.

one report from glazier had that.  I think if they wanted it the bears would have given it and then swapped again with us to 9.  And if you believe that report then you have to believe that teams totally had him off the draft boards.  If houston was in love with young he would be a texan today

 

Nobody knows how the draft would have gone down.  Someone always falls. 

[Car123]

2 hours ago, falconlynx said:

Plays like a 3rd or 4th rounder. 

No he’s playing like a typical first round rookie.

[ForJimmy]

2 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

one report from glazier had that.  I think if they wanted it the bears would have given it and then swapped again with us to 9.  And if you believe that report then you have to believe that teams totally had him off the draft boards.  If houston was in love with young he would be a texan today

 

Nobody knows how the draft would have gone down.  Someone always falls. 

https://nypost.com/2023/04/13/2023-nfl-draft-adam-schefter-calls-bryce-youngs-texans-visit-a-waste/

“I think Bryce Young is going to be the No. 1 pick. [The Texans] are not going to have a chance to take the guy that, I think, they would have liked to have taken.”

Schefter also thinks they wanted him.

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, ForJimmy said:

https://nypost.com/2023/04/13/2023-nfl-draft-adam-schefter-calls-bryce-youngs-texans-visit-a-waste/

“I think Bryce Young is going to be the No. 1 pick. [The Texans] are not going to have a chance to take the guy that, I think, they would have liked to have taken.”

Schefter also thinks they wanted him.

thats cool, but again nobody knows how it would have played out, someone always falls

 

I can give you the list but you get the point.  I think if texans were in love with young as you are saying then they could have simply flipped with the bears and then bears flipping again with us

[ForJimmy]

2 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

thats cool, but again nobody knows how it would have played out, someone always falls

 

I can give you the list but you get the point.  I think if texans were in love with young as you are saying then they could have simply flipped with the bears and then bears flipping again with us

I don't think they were "in love" with him.  I think he was their preference, but they weren't willing to part with what we did for him.  DJ Moore on a decent contract was a big selling point for the Bears.  At one point they mentioned the number 2 pick was for sale, but again who knows what is true or not.

Also I don't doubt teams had Young off their boards.  Any team wanting to have their QB under center most of the time or use their QB as a runner shouldn't consider Young.  I just don't think the Texans were one of those teams.  Shefter and Glazer are pretty solid sources IMO.  I don't see one that says the Texans never had Young on their board?

[45catfan]

I would have passed on QBs all together this draft because I saw this train wreck coming.  Admittedly, it's even worse than I envisioned.  Impatient owner, brand new staff, no weapons and then you top it off with a rookie QB?  That's a turd topping on a hot trash sundae right there.