Panthers Receivers Coach retires

[CharlotteBeer.com]

By wins and losses. You can't blame a position coach for every player that fails though...that's just ignorant. You know, I could teach you to play guitar, but if you don't have the talent or don't put in the practice on your own, you will be a pooty guitar player no matter how much I know or how hard I try to make you better...it's the same thing with football players.

I'll admit there are several variables that the general public just can't know about the situation, so to a degree it's unfair for us to even comment on something we know so little about in the first place. That being said, I think it's entirely fair to judge a position coach by what he's done with his draft picks.

I also don't understand the logic in evaluating position coaches in light of the team's record. If that were the case, Crossman would still probably have a job right now.

[KillerKat]

I'm curious. Exactly how many great WR's did you expect this team to produce in 15 years? When you hit on guys like Smith and Moose, who play for 10 years or more, you rarely draft a WR in the 1st round, and you're a run first team for 95% of those 15 years, I just don't see how you can expect the list to be very long...especially when you're talking about a team that started from nothing 15 years ago.

Its sad that after 2000 you only produce 1 good WR and still have 1 on the team from last decade because you couldnt develop another reciever to go with your #1. It's also sad you dont have a good slot receiver since the day you released your old and aging one in 2005 because you can't develop recievers at all. His number of duds far out weigh the number of solid receivers he's ever had. Like is said, even then only 2 of those solid recievers we drafted and produced on our own.

[Mr. Scot]

It's not purely on draftees. Williamson also had to coach veteran free agent acquisitions. Sometimes that means you get a good product. Other times that means you're fixing someone else's mistakes. You have to judge the whole body of work.

As far as the draftees, I don't think it's fair to put complete blame over lack of development for anybody drafted prior to 2006 on Williamson. The Panthers head of scouting prior to that wasn't exactly the greatest talent evaluator in the league.

Only Ryne Robinson and Dwayne Jarrett have been drafted post Tony Softli. Of that group, it's a definitive incomplete. Robinson looked like he might develop before injury derailed him. Jarrett has been an underachiever, but in the last game (with Matt Moore throwing to him) he looked like a gamer.

Overall, I think Williamson did solid work in his time here.

With that said, I do agree it was probably the right time for him to retire.

[monstercat]

Its sad that after 2000 you only produce 1 good WR and still have 1 on the team from last decade because you couldnt develop another reciever to go with your #1. It's also sad you dont have a good slot receiver since the day you released your old and aging one in 2005 because you can't develop recievers at all. His number of duds far out weigh the number of solid receivers he's ever had. Like is said, even then only 2 of those solid recievers we drafted and produced on our own.

Go look at the number of duds the Patriots have drafted, not only at WR, but at all positions. Nobody hits on every draft pick, and not all draft picks are capable of being developed. You seem to think that, unless a coach develops every single prospect into a winner, then he must be a failure, which is just not how it works.

This is just like the whole debate over QB coaches. There is not an NFL QB coach that ever lived who could turn every prospect into a starting quality QB. I guarantee you that 95% of them have had many more prospects that failed, than one's that succeeded as NFL starting QB's. Once again, you can't turn poo into gold.

[frash.exe]

If you notice one thing, it's that when we ran a west coast offense we were able to get wrs to produce but around the time we changed to an air coryell type offense we couldn't get new talent to put up decent numbers, except for smith.

The wc offense is generally receiver friendly

[Mr. Scot]

If you notice one thing, it's that when we ran a west coast offense we were able to get wrs to produce but around the time we changed to an air coryell type offense we couldn't get new talent to put up decent numbers, except for smith.

The wc offense is generally receiver friendly

Yep. You always have to look a little deeper at the stats for a receiver and/or a quarterback in the West Coast system. It's predicated on short, safe high percentage passes.

[Sword]

Isaac Bruce wants to be a Recievers Coach..he wants to go with the hometeam Rams but who knows?

[Mr. Scot]

Saw that. Can't honestly say I thought much about it. Who knows if hes any good as a coach?

Let him work his way up.

[MaineManPanther]

Its sad that after 2000 you only produce 1 good WR and still have 1 on the team from last decade because you couldnt develop another reciever to go with your #1. It's also sad you dont have a good slot receiver since the day you released your old and aging one in 2005 because you can't develop recievers at all. His number of duds far out weigh the number of solid receivers he's ever had. Like is said, even then only 2 of those solid recievers we drafted and produced on our own.

Look at all the WR's that were brought here in his time. Which of those do you feel wouldn't have been duds had they have a great WR coach?

[PantherDude]

Does he deserve any of the blame for that lack of progress with the likes of Colbert and Jarrett?

Nope. Those guys went to USC. USC rarely have their WRs became damn good in the NFL.

To be honest, I didn't think highly of Williamson in recent years but I still wish him the very best.

Same here. This guy been here since '95, so that quite a long time. Hope he enjoy his retirement & live free.

I'm curious. Exactly how many great WR's did you expect this team to produce in 15 years? When you hit on guys like Smith and Moose, who play for 10 years or more, you rarely draft a WR in the 1st round, and you're a run first team for 95% of those 15 years, I just don't see how you can expect the list to be very long...especially when you're talking about a team that started from nothing 15 years ago.

Word. I don't blame some of the crappy WRs we got over the years on him. For all we know, the coaches & general managers pick the crappy WRs, not him. You can't get a WR coach to fix a terrible player to begin with. The player himself has to improve his skill & the WR coach can take it from there.