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Mike Vick needs to be in Carolina?

joemac

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oh moore has had ten times the success of vick huh? moore's been a confrence mvp as a freshman in college huh?not to mention setting a confrence record for average per "pass".finished 3rd in the hiesman that same season to????moore also lead his team to the nation title in his second college season has he???not nfl sucess hummm ok... then what about the time matt moore was drafted 1st round 1st overall pick. he was something then coming out of oregon state wasn't he...what about the 4 pro bowls matt moore has under his belt....fan voting huh...what about the time the falcons made moore the highest paid qb ever....ok not on the field.lets talk about the first time a nfl qb has rushed for a 1000 in a season. not to mention the first time a qb and running back have rushed for a 1000 on the same team(dunn).becasue moore has lead his team to the post season twice and to the nfc championship.first qb to ever to "pass"for 250 and rush for 100 in the same game.did i leave out that moore is the first qb to rush for 100 in a postseason game. oh also vick...excuse me moore hold the record for highest per rush average in a season(8.4)reguardless of position.moore also will end up with the all time highest rushing totals for a career at qb.all of these are still nfl records. still in the books and will be remembered. and moore has had more success than vick in a season????is moore in the record books???? jake hasnt even had as good a career as vick. sure jakes statistic as a passer are better right now, but are his numbers elite at what he does?? in the record books...no.vick is the all time best at something, while the single record jake holds is the most ints in the post season. will jake or moore be remembered for their 82.5 career passer rating....no. vick will be remembered forever as the first for alot of things. so calling him a bust or failure or he's had a bad career is ignorant. his passer rating isnt stellar but if were going off elite passing numbers neither is jake or moore.vicks win loss record isnt bad with less talent around him and worse coaching.he wills his team to wins.isnt that what we want..... wins...

How long ago was his college career? And does Moore's college career cut out the success that Moore as had this year? If so, you're being pretty stupid at the moment. Moore has had more recent success and needs more opportunities than Vick. Vick isn't the same as he was as far as rushing goes and being out of the league didn't help him improve from his prime to now. With that said, he was never and will never be a really good QB.

Careful throwing the most over used word/most misunderstood word, ignorant, around. most people don't seem to understand the very definition as it appears you don't.

You may like Vick more and think he is everything we need, but based on Moore's play, I doubt Vick will have been as success or be as successful. You may think that's ignorant. That very thought is rather stupid. lol

Nice try. Have fun thinking Vick is great. Moore needs the opportunity, if you think that's ignorant, then this world must be a tough place for you. :)

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Jimmy Johnson is racist. He said a black QB would help us and we need to go after him. Bigot!

who thinks that?

you do realize you're more racist than anyone on this board? if you admit that and are cool with that, then I can appreciate a little more of your view. but being a hypocrite isn't very admirable... Especially when no one goes around being racist, when you arrogantly call out others based on assumption... (reaching for things to label the huddle further than LeBron's reach into the Brown's organization)

Moore has shown more promise than Vick. People would love to bring in McNabb, are you conveniently ignoring that to fulfill your extreme desire to label a racist? That in itself is racist...

WE WANT A GOOD QB... lol

Just because someone feels Vick sucks has nothing to do with him being black. Does that include EVERY Panther fan? No. I'm sure there are racists all over the nation for all teams... but you generalize an entire fanbase. That is wrong on so many levels and have no proof of such accusations.

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Moore has shown more promise than Vick.

By winning 5 meaningless games when our season is over? You could've made a chimpanzee our QB and he would've played as well as Moore. Alot of QBs in this league could've done what he did including Vick. Moore is just more marketable here. He can be marketed as that "underdog" our fans can rally behind. Vick can not, but outside of Carolina no one would take Matt Moore over Vick. He will not garner the same interest as Vick this offseason. That is a FACT.

People would love to bring in McNabb, are you conveniently ignoring that to fulfill your extreme desire to label a racist? That in itself is racist...

Are you completely ignoring the fact the Panthers feature one of the worst QBs in the league and enable him because he was once very marketable here? Are you completely ignoring the fact the Panthers QB stable is one of the most monolithic in league history? The Panthers will give a sorry white QB a chance before they'd bring in a good black one. Thats sad. People would rather overembellish Moore who hasnt proven jack squat over Vick who has won games and actually been the focal point of an offense. The same people who are sold on Moore after 8 games were arguing me down and werent sold on Vince Young's winning record after 30 games. A black QB got to do 4 times as much to get the same respect. And even then we dont got the heart to draft or bring him in. We have the track record to prove it.

Just because someone feels Vick sucks has nothing to do with him being black. Does that include EVERY Panther fan? No. I'm sure there are racists all over the nation for all teams... but you generalize an entire fanbase. That is wrong on so many levels and have no proof of such accusations.

There are Panther fans who dont care and would love for us to bring in Vick. Unfortunately the organization would not bring in a Vick, a McNabb, a Pat White, a Garrard, etc because the organization doesnt believe in black QBs. Taking chances on unproven undrafted white QBs is more their speed. Its gonna win us a Lombardi someday soon.

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By winning 5 meaningless games when our season is over? You could've made a chimpanzee our QB and he would've played as well as Moore. Alot of QBs in this league could've done what he did including Vick. Moore is just more marketable here. He can be marketed as that "underdog" our fans can rally behind. Vick can not, but outside of Carolina no one would take Matt Moore over Vick. He will not garner the same interest as Vick this offseason. That is a FACT.

Are you completely ignoring the fact the Panthers feature one of the worst QBs in the league and enable him because he was once very marketable here? Are you completely ignoring the fact the Panthers QB stable is one of the most monolithic in league history? The Panthers will give a sorry white QB a chance before they'd bring in a good black one. Thats sad. People would rather overembellish Moore who hasnt proven jack squat over Vick who has won games and actually been the focal point of an offense. The same people who are sold on Moore after 8 games were arguing me down and werent sold on Vince Young's winning record after 30 games. A black QB got to do 4 times as much to get the same respect. And even then we dont got the heart to draft or bring him in. We have the track record to prove it.

There are Panther fans who dont care and would love for us to bring in Vick. Unfortunately the organization would not bring in a Vick, a McNabb, a Pat White, a Garrard, etc because the organization doesnt believe in black QBs. Taking chances on unproven undrafted white QBs is more their speed. Its gonna win us a Lombardi someday soon.

You've got some serious issues man, and to be quite honest, I don't know why people even waste time arguing with the bullsh!t you spew.

You do more harm to your own race than good, but you just can't get that through your head.

Best wishes, and please, get some help. Not just for your sake, but for EVERYBODY'S sake.

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You do more harm to your own race than good, but you just can't get that through your head.

I would say the same thing to the Panthers brass and their boycotting of black QBs. They make us all look like close minded rednecks who care more about seeing people who look like us at QB than winning ball games. People arent going around Charlotte saying King Taharqa wont get rid of Jake Delhomme because he's boinking my daughter. They're saying that about our passive owner. You can only ignore pink elephants for so long boys. Jake lowered the bar so low he exposed the Panthers blatant bias and how far they would tolerate a sorry QB as long as he's not a black man.

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I would say the same thing to the Panthers brass and their boycotting of black QBs. They make us all look like close minded rednecks who care more about seeing people who look like us at QB than winning ball games. People arent going around Charlotte saying King Taharqa wont get rid of Jake Delhomme because he's boinking my daughter. They're saying that about our passive owner. You can only ignore pink elephants for so long boys. Jake lowered the bar so low he exposed the Panthers blatant bias and how far they would tolerate a sorry QB as long as he's not a black man.

Since you are so head strong, set with your opinion of this organization, then may I suggest along with getting the help you need, find another team to pull for. Why would you pull for a team that you feel is so racist?

Just go away, find some help, find another team, because we don't need any more dead weight to carry around while climbing out of this hole we are in.

My last comment to you. So blast away. I'm not gonna be one of the hundreds that constantly argue with you and the ignorance you spew, yet still say this is YOUR team. :smilielol5:

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I would say the same thing to the Panthers brass and their boycotting of black QBs. They make us all look like close minded rednecks who care more about seeing people who look like us at QB than winning ball games. People arent going around Charlotte saying King Taharqa wont get rid of Jake Delhomme because he's boinking my daughter. They're saying that about our passive owner. You can only ignore pink elephants for so long boys. Jake lowered the bar so low he exposed the Panthers blatant bias and how far they would tolerate a sorry QB as long as he's not a black man.

Dude you would think Dan Rooney is Raciest. Its getting old:beatdeadhorse5:

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