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Carolina needs Michael Vick badly


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Those guys never had 5 consecutive years of sucking. Sorry, but thanks for trying.

Neither has Vick...and you proving to me that there's other factors you need to look into besides raw percentages that don't talk about the their team, coach, injuries, etc...

And you comparing someone to someone else doesn't prove a point...SO who is better between fitzgerald and SMitty?

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Neither has Vick...and you proving to me that there's other factors you need to look into besides raw percentages that don't talk about the their team, coach, injuries, etc...

lol sorry that you're too ignorant that all of my stats aren't enough to convince you of Vick's suckiness the 5 years he started. Vick had 3 solid receivers that didnt shine till they got a legit QB. He had Dunn at RB who was good as well. Yet he still sucked.

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lol sorry that you're too ignorant that all of my stats aren't enough to convince you of Vick's suckiness the 5 years he started. Vick had 3 solid receivers that didnt shine till they got a legit QB. He had Dunn at RB who was good as well. Yet he still sucked.

If anything or anyone is ignorant its you that you not taking into account that they also changed their Head Coach who also failed in Seattle...

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Of course it does. The fans know more than JJ.:rolleyes:

Perhaps a day will come when people will not be so quick to call names and spread the neg rep at the pure mention of Vick. I thought I'd never see the day when Philly fans are more rational and show more class than Carolina fans. Southern hospitality is a misnomer, and I suppose that the Carolinas should have their Bible Belt cards revoked.

Dude, you are a complete moron. Just because someone is/was an analyst, is/was a coach or is/was (you like all those slashes, eh) a player does not mean that their assessment is correct nor void of bias, nor does it mean they did extensive research. In fact, I'd say that analysts are often wrong and inaccurate.

Stop acting like his opinion is the word of god. In one phrase: get off his nuts.

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lol sorry that you're too ignorant that all of my stats aren't enough to convince you of Vick's suckiness the 5 years he started. Vick had 3 solid receivers that didnt shine till they got a legit QB. He had Dunn at RB who was good as well. Yet he still sucked.

Who, besides Roddy has "shined" since Vick left? Jenkins numbers are basically the same for Ryan and Vick, and he had his best year as far as TD receptions under Vick. Roddy was young. It takes some time for a WR to develop in this league; of course they're some exceptions. Who was the other one, oh yea, Peerless Price. Price was never all that. Had two decent years in '01 and '02, but hasnt been sh*t since.

Also, I havent heard the 'skins were interested in Moore. Where's that story at?

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You're right because he caused Vick to have all those fumbles and INTs and incomplete passes.

Those can also be pressure issues...of not having a O line...start saying something like he had accuracy problems and you'd have something going for you...and that's a fundamental problem that's fixable

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Who, besides Roddy has "shined" since Vick left? Jenkins numbers are basically the same for Ryan and Vick, and he had his best year as far as TD receptions under Vick. Roddy was young. It takes some time for a WR to develop in this league; of course they're some exceptions. Who was the other one, oh yea, Peerless Price. Price was never all that. Had two decent years in '01 and '02, but hasnt been sh*t since.

Also, I havent heard the 'skins were interested in Moore. Where's that story at?

glad you said something about it

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Those can also be pressure issues...of not having a O line...start saying something like he had accuracy problems and you'd have something going for you...and that's a fundamental problem that's fixable

The o-line in which Dunn went over 1,000 yards for 3 consecutive seasons?

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Those can also be pressure issues...of not having a O line...start saying something like he had accuracy problems and you'd have something going for you...and that's a fundamental problem that's fixable

Its unlikely that something like that can be fixed with a 30 year old QB. If he was 25 maybe, but he is well into his career, and he is what he is. A QB with great running ability, but suspect passing.

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Those can also be pressure issues...of not having a O line...start saying something like he had accuracy problems and you'd have something going for you...and that's a fundamental problem that's fixable

The idea of "fundamentals" are that they are "fundamental" and thus not "fixable."

See here: "a basic principle, rule, law, or the like, that serves as the groundwork of a system;"

You sort of need those fundamentals to do anything else and again, they are usually not fixable.

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