Carolina needs Michael Vick badly

[KillerKat]

Michael Vick's 75.9 career QB rating is higher than Carolina's QB rating as a franchise. Michael Vick threw a 76 yard TD pass last week. Matt Moore hasnt thrown a TD pass in the playoffs ever and Delhomme hasnt thrown one in a playoff game in 4 years.

Yeah f**k the fact Vick turned it over the next time he was on the field. Or the fact Moore had 4 long bombs in his 5 games he started, had a 102.98 QB rate average, and 63.9 cmp % also (Vick's highest cmp % ever is 56.4). Along with 8 TDs and 1 INTs.

And the fact you comparting Vick's rating to Carolina's franchise rating is irrelevant (and probably wrong) and you bringing up Moore not having yet to throw a 70 yarder in the playoffs is laughable at best. Even so, that 75.9 rating by Vick isn't higher than Delhomme's 82.6 with the Panthers INCLUDING the 2009 season. Which shows you how terrible Vick is.

[top dawg]

Matt Moore hasn't fumbled in a playoff game........ever.

I am willing to give Moore an opportunity, but using "not fumbling" as a standard sounds suspiciously like you're suffering from Jake Delhomme-itis.

[Jrock3016]

Right so we should be on the phone with Brady Quinn, Jamarcus Russell, and Ryan Fitzpatrick right now. Forget the fact they have terrible numbers, what about all the talent!!11 ZOMG!!!1

I didn't like Brady Quinn when he played for Notre Dame never thought he was that great then...Jamarcus has talent and needs someone like a veteran qb or a good qb coach to help teach him how to use his talent effectively...Part of his failure is him...the other part is being drafted into the worst organizational football team in the league...and I dont know much about Fitzpatrick. please try again...

[King Taharqa]

Matt Moore hasn't fumbled in a playoff game........ever.

He's never won one either. Vick has. Moore is so good the Panthers wont even name him the starter for 2010 yet. :nonod: Michael Vick is known for making plays with his feet and throwing 60 yard bombs. Matt Moore is known for handing the ball off to Jonathan Stewart and "managing" games. Michael Vick is already garnering more interest as a 3rd string backup. Do tell guys, what teams are looking at trading for Moore? Name some please. St.Louis? Buffalo? Houston? Surely some NFL teams out there besides us want him since he's clearly better than Vick right? LOL.

[KillerKat]

I didn't like Brady Quinn when he played for Notre Dame never thought he was that great then...Jamarcus has talent and needs someone like a veteran qb or a good qb coach to help teach him how to use his talent effectively...Part of his failure is him...the other part is being drafted into the worst organizational football team in the league...and I dont know much about Fitzpatrick. please try again...

The point was that a spade is a spade. When the numbers show you suck, you most likely do. Would you like your ownage in paper or plastic?

[John Fox]

Michael Vick's 75.9 career QB rating is higher than Carolina's QB rating as a franchise. Michael Vick threw a 76 yard TD pass last week. Matt Moore hasnt thrown a TD pass in the playoffs ever and Delhomme hasnt thrown one in a playoff game in 4 years.

and of course, whenever a black man is the topic of discussion, Taharqa goes to the thread to post pointless bullshit in defense of the said black man

Michael Vick's 75.9 career QB rating is higher than Carolina's QB rating as a franchise

Jake Delhomme is in the top 20 when it comes to QB. Currently, he has a higher rating than Michael Vick with 82.1. But we all know that QB rating is useless. Oh yeah, and the fact that you have to compare him to the entire franchises rating is asinine. next

Michael Vick threw a 76 yard TD pass last week. Matt Moore hasnt thrown a TD pass in the playoffs ever and Delhomme hasnt thrown one in a playoff game in 4 years

Honestly one of the dumbest things i have ever read.

1. Jake Delhomme threw a TD in the playoff game last year vs the Cards.

2. Mike Vick threw a TD pass on a trick play.

3. Matt Moore hasn't thrown a TD pass in the playoffs, BECAUSE HE HASN'T BEEN TO THE PLAYOFFS. He has been put in as the QB way too late in the season, when our playoff hopes have pretty much diminished. It's not a "win out and you're in" kind of thing, its a "win out AND receive a shitload of help" kind of thing.

[top dawg]

He's never won one either. Vick has. Moore is so good the Panthers wont even name him the starter for 2010 yet. :nonod: Michael Vick is known for making plays with his feet and throwing 60 yard bombs. Matt Moore is known for handing the ball off to Jonathan Stewart and "managing" games. Michael Vick is already garnering more interest as a 3rd string backup. Do tell guys, what teams are looking at trading for Moore? Name some please. St.Louis? Buffalo? Houston? Surely some NFL teams out there besides us want him since he's clearly better than Vick right? LOL.

***Crickets***

Now, that's a damned good question! :biggrin:

[John Fox]

He's never won one either. Vick has. Moore is so good the Panthers wont even name him the starter for 2010 yet. :nonod: Michael Vick is known for making plays with his feet and throwing 60 yard bombs. Matt Moore is known for handing the ball off to Jonathan Stewart and "managing" games. Michael Vick is already garnering more interest as a 3rd string backup. Do tell guys, what teams are looking at trading for Moore? Name some please. St.Louis? Buffalo? Houston? Surely some NFL teams out there besides us want him since he's clearly better than Vick right? LOL.

I see more teams trying to trade for Vick than Peyton Manning. I guess Vick is better than Manning.

But to answer your question, the Redskins have some interest in Moore

[Davidson Deac II]

Michael Vick's 75.9 career QB rating is higher than Carolina's QB rating as a franchise. Michael Vick threw a 76 yard TD pass last week. Matt Moore hasnt thrown a TD pass in the playoffs ever and Delhomme hasnt thrown one in a playoff game in 4 years.

Wow, I didn't realize Vick's quarterback rating was that bad. Why are we even having this discussion?

Even with this year, Jake's career number rating is in the 80's.

[Jrock3016]

The point was that a spade is a spade. When the numbers show you suck, you most likely do. Would you like your ownage in paper or plastic?

So those years when farve's numbers was bad said the he sucked? Moss's numbers sucked when he played for the raiders too...so he sucked? U haven't proved nothing but being closed mined to numbers...you probably was a jake lover when his qb rating was high...though alot of the reason it was that high was because smitty saved him when he chucked the ball up to smitty every other play

[KillerKat]

Yeah because a player getting traded shows how great they are. So by this logic TO is better than Larry Fitzgerald. Really Im glad we have some posters who work with the FO who can tell us which players other teams are looking at and which players other teams aren't looking at. They sure do no more than the average poster who has no idea.

[KillerKat]

So those years when farve's numbers was bad said the he sucked? Moss's numbers sucked when he played for the raiders too...so he sucked? U haven't proved nothing but being closed mined to numbers...you probably was a jake lover when his qb rating was high...though alot of the reason it was that high was because smitty saved him when he chucked the ball up to smitty every other play

Those guys never had 5 consecutive years of sucking. Sorry, but thanks for trying.

[King Taharqa]

Isnt Moore a restricted free agent? C'mon guys, he's the next Romo right? No one out there wants him? Surely someone is willing to trade for him. I mean the Panthers have already named him the starter for 2010 right? RIGHT??!?!? LMAO!!!!!!!!

[Jangler]

Wow, I didn't realize Vick's quarterback rating was that bad. Why are we even having this discussion?

Because he is a black QB that is not being given a chance....duh.