Carolina needs Michael Vick badly

[Bruce]

Killing dogs does not equate to killing people, though many would perversely disagree.

The point is is that Vick is trying to make amends, but there are those in society who will never give him a chance to redeem himself.

I agree, but they both say a lot about one's character.

[Cpanthers5851]

carolina needs a QB who can protect the ball.

vick has a total of 95 tds(72 passing and 23 running) and 79 turnovers(52 picks and 27 fumbles). not to mention he has another 28 fumbles that he was fortunate enough not to lose.

i dont want vick in carolina

[Captain Obvious]

Can he return Kicks?

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People get way to caught up in Vick's past. I for one dont condone what he did, but this is football and at the end of the day all i want is a super bowl trophy in Charlotte. The bottom line is that Vick brings an element that other teams must account for because he is an explosive athlete. I dont want him here as a starting QB though. I think Moore is the future. But to have Vick take 10-15 snaps a game in a wildcat, or shotgun formation with both Williams and Stewart on the field would be absolutely impossible to stop. The possibilities would be endless. Screens to either Stewart or Williams, QB draws with Vick, runs, play action pass, etc. You could do drive after drive in the same formation simply because when the defense stacks the box to stop stewart and williams you simply pa pass to smitty and eat the D alive through the air. Then when they switch to a zone and spread the defense out, you run it every which way.

Bottom line is this, with the big play players we have already, Vick would be a nice compliment as a dual threat QB to run trick plays and confuse defenses. That being said, JR will most-likely not even consider Vick and we will stick it out with Moore which is absolutely fine with me!

[cpac]

I'm still debating about the thought of Vick being in Carolina. I kinda feel like I want him here for some reason, but don't think we need him.

[bredy087]

God make these threads stop!!!!:mad2: :mad2: :mad2: :mad2:

[Jangler]

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/morals?db=dictionary

mor⋅al  /ˈmɔrəl, ˈmɒr-/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [mawr-uhl, mor-] Show IPA

–adjective 1. of, pertaining to, or concerned with the principles or rules of right conduct or the distinction between right and wrong; ethical: moral attitudes.

2. expressing or conveying truths or counsel as to right conduct, as a speaker or a literary work; moralizing: a moral novel.

3. founded on the fundamental principles of right conduct rather than on legalities, enactment, or custom: moral obligations.

4. capable of conforming to the rules of right conduct: a moral being.

5. conforming to the rules of right conduct (opposed to immoral ): a moral man.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ethics

eth⋅ics  /ˈɛθɪks/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [eth-iks] Show IPA

–plural noun 1. (used with a singular or plural verb) a system of moral principles: the ethics of a culture.

2. the rules of conduct recognized in respect to a particular class of human actions or a particular group, culture, etc.: medical ethics;

3. moral principles, as of an individual: His ethics forbade betrayal of a confidence.

4. (usually used with a singular verb) that branch of philosophy dealing with values relating to human conduct, with respect to the rightness and wrongness of certain actions and to the goodness and badness of the motives and ends of such actions.

[top dawg]

Some of you have valid points, but I don't believe that any of us know more about football than JJ, so why we'd reject Vick out of hand is beyond me.

[Davidson Deac II]

People get way to caught up in Vick's past. I for one dont condone what he did, but this is football and at the end of the day all i want is a super bowl trophy in Charlotte. The bottom line is that Vick brings an element that other teams must account for because he is an explosive athlete. I dont want him here as a starting QB though. I think Moore is the future. But to have Vick take 10-15 snaps a game in a wildcat, or shotgun formation with both Williams and Stewart on the field would be absolutely impossible to stop. The possibilities would be endless. Screens to either Stewart or Williams, QB draws with Vick, runs, play action pass, etc. You could do drive after drive in the same formation simply because when the defense stacks the box to stop stewart and williams you simply pa pass to smitty and eat the D alive through the air. Then when they switch to a zone and spread the defense out, you run it every which way.

Bottom line is this, with the big play players we have already, Vick would be a nice compliment as a dual threat QB to run trick plays and confuse defenses. That being said, JR will most-likely not even consider Vick and we will stick it out with Moore which is absolutely fine with me!

I don't care about his criminal past, but his football past is overrated. He makes a lot of big plays, but also turns it over a lot and is not a very good passer. And he is 30 years old, which means his ability to run the ball will soon begin to diminish.

[mr beauxjangles]

How many of you here on the Huddle would expect to or be able to get your job back if you were convicted of a felony and served 23 months in jail? Anyone? The league should not have given him a second chance to start with, nor should they give anyone else convicted of a felony a second chance.

[top dawg]

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/morals?db=dictionary

mor⋅al  /ˈmɔrəl, ˈmɒr-/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [mawr-uhl, mor-] Show IPA

–adjective 1. of, pertaining to, or concerned with the principles or rules of right conduct or the distinction between right and wrong; ethical: moral attitudes.

2. expressing or conveying truths or counsel as to right conduct, as a speaker or a literary work; moralizing: a moral novel.

3. founded on the fundamental principles of right conduct rather than on legalities, enactment, or custom: moral obligations.

4. capable of conforming to the rules of right conduct: a moral being.

5. conforming to the rules of right conduct (opposed to immoral ): a moral man.

Come on, Jangler. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. No man is completely moral or immoral. I am trying to stick to talking football.

[Kevin Greene]

Vick is not OJ, and for you to equate the two shows a lack of depth.

I stand corrected.

Vick is a worthless sack of poo all on his own.

[KillerKat]

Do you guys look at Vicks stats before starting these dumbass threads? How many times do you got to see that prior to this year Vicks best year didn't even beat Delhomme's worse? Repeat that to yourself over and over till it finally sinks into your brain. That is if you have one.

[top dawg]

How many of you here on the Huddle would expect to or be able to get your job back if you were convicted of a felony and served 23 months in jail? Anyone? The league should not have given him a second chance to start with, nor should they give anyone else convicted of a felony a second chance.

Many esteemed people in American history have done much worse, but that's another forum.