Observer: Is it time for Panthers to go to Andy Dalton?

[PleaseCutStewart]

Ummm, now that we are 0-5, hell no. We don't need to win any games this year so that way we at least have the first pick in the 2nd - 4th rounds.

If it were after week 1 when Bryce clearly was not ready to play, then I would say yes. Now we need to just get reps for young guys and evaluate players that should be here long term (which sadly there aren't many deserving of such)

Edited October 9, 2023 by PleaseCutStewart

[Zaximus]

Can we have the Bears send us some picks to keep Bryce starting so they have a higher pick next year?  I kid but....

[The Lobo]

Damn, this is where we are at huh. What a poo show. 

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, Zaximus said:

Can we have the Bears send us some picks to keep Bryce starting so they have a higher pick next year?  I kid but....

They have the 1st overall pick right now. On top of that they will still have their top 5 pick, mostly likely the 2nd pick.  As thigs stand right now I cannot see any way we do not finish dead last in the standings.

[Jay Roosevelt]

Absolutely NO reason to sit Bryce. He just played his best game of the season so far against the toughest opponent we've faced, despite the two picks. For the first time we actually seemed to just run our offense and let him play. It wasn't perfect, but the flashes were there.

We have to let him play, gain experience, and learn from the mistakes he's going to make. It's the only way he gets better.

2 hours ago, 4Corners said:

They have got to do everything where that first rounder is not a top 3 overall. It still sucks, but sending over the 6th instead of the first or second might not sting quite as much. 

This is the stupidest thing I've read all week. Who gives a poo if the pick we gave Chicago ends up being #1 overall or #4 overall? What difference does that actually make for us other than making the panicked portion of the fanbase feel a little better?

We're not making the playoffs; we know this now. This season is now 100% about getting Bryce Young as many reps as possible and allowing him to work out the kinks now so that by season's end we have a pretty clear idea of just what we have in him and whether he's improving or not.

Starting Andy Dalton now accomplishes what? There's no guarantee that we win anymore games with him than we do with Bryce at QB and we're not making the playoffs regardless, so why delay Bryce's development (or, for those that already think he's a bust, confirmation of that) by starting a guy we KNOW for a fact isn't the answer at QB long-term?

[Newtcase]

1 hour ago, Billy Goat said:

Why on earth should they do that? The season is a write-off. We need to use the remaining games to give Young as many reps as possible. The whole sitting him to shadow a vet ship sailed long ago.

Because the locker room is losing faith.  Brian Burns offering zero encouragement publicly is the point being made here.  You're not going to find the patience you're preaching we need when players career paths and earning potential are affected by ineffective QB play.

[45catfan]

Yes.

[4Corners]

4 minutes ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

 

This is the stupidest thing I've read all week. 

It’s before noon on Monday 

[thennek]

The reason for starting Dalton would be to win a few games. This team does not know how to win. I still think there is sticker shock on Young and he may not be as ready as they thought. I think they spent so much time, focusing on his test scores and his ability to process that they thought this was enough to overcome his physical limitations. I still think Tepper pushed the analytics as that has been his MO since day one. 
 

i know i am a minority opinion on this but i did not want the Panthers to trade up. I thought it was too costly and the team needed valuable pieces to give up what they did. 

 

[panfanman]

2 hours ago, 4Corners said:

They have got to do everything where that first rounder is not a top 3 overall. It still sucks, but sending over the 6th instead of the first or second might not sting quite as much. 

Naw. . .our 1st round pick doesn't mean a hill of beans to us at this point whether it's the #1 pick or the 18th pick.  Hell, if we can't make the playoffs it's in our best interest to tank for the 33rd pick.  *I know.  I can't believe I'm saying that either. LMAO)

[Carolina Disaster]

You have to keep playing Bryce and see what you have and how he can develop.  We invested too much in to him at this point to go to Dalton.  Unfortunately it is what it is.  Lets see if he can improve and grow.

[45catfan]

9 minutes ago, thennek said:

The reason for starting Dalton would be to win a few games. This team does not know how to win. I still think there is sticker shock on Young and he may not be as ready as they thought. I think they spent so much time, focusing on his test scores and his ability to process that they thought this was enough to overcome his physical limitations. I still think Tepper pushed the analytics as that has been his MO since day one. 
 

i know i am a minority opinion on this but i did not want the Panthers to trade up. I thought it was too costly and the team needed valuable pieces to give up what they did. 

 

Morale is a real thing.  The entire team can go in a funk (already probably are) or hurt Bryce's ego with a mini-benching.  If Bryce is as mentally strong as they claim, sitting him for a few games to get this thing back on track shouldn't scar him.  He should embrace it honestly and learn from a veteran for a bit.

Edited October 9, 2023 by 45catfan

[RumHam]

Dalton should have started the season. Then Tepper was like no we need hype he's ready put him out there all in his vince mcmahon voice.

[Jon Snow]

13 minutes ago, thennek said:

The reason for starting Dalton would be to win a few games. This team does not know how to win. I still think there is sticker shock on Young and he may not be as ready as they thought. I think they spent so much time, focusing on his test scores and his ability to process that they thought this was enough to overcome his physical limitations. I still think Tepper pushed the analytics as that has been his MO since day one. 
 

i know i am a minority opinion on this but i did not want the Panthers to trade up. I thought it was too costly and the team needed valuable pieces to give up what they did. 

 

You were not alone in the trade up decision.  I too didn't think this team was in the position to waste picks on one player. They were and still are not one player away. 

Edited October 9, 2023 by Jon Snow