Just speculating... I wouldn't be surprised if Frank or Fitt is fired soon. Very soon.

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, electro's horse said:

Yeah it’d have to be someone like that even though the last time we went that route we ended up with gettleman

The problem with consultants has long been that they tend to favor people theyre networked with.

The problem with not having a consultant though is that it leaves us beholden to the "wisdom" of David Tepper

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, electro's horse said:

Now would be the time do it. Right after the trade deadline, not much else to do until the draft, besides whatever the plan is with burns. 

Yeah...I can't get on board with that.

[Bear Hands]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

The problem with consultants has long been that they tend to favor people theyre networked with.

The problem with not having a consultant though is that it leaves us beholden to the "wisdom" of David Tepper

He has actually had an ex-GM routinely helping him for about 2 years now.  He even paid him on contract for a time being.  It's not the name you'd like to hear though.  

[LinvilleGorge]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

We just won our first game and don't know yet how this season is going to end.

I'm not really up for making that kind of decision until we see how this plays out.

If we see improvement by the end of the year, are you still going to be on board with firing everybody?

Define "improvement". I mean, ending up with 5 wins would still mean a significant improvement down the stretch but yeah, I'd probably still say that this front office needs to go.

They made moves thinking they had positioned this roster much better off than reality has proven. We're pretty strapped on draft capital in the short term and are going to have to lean heavily on FA to compensate. These guys' two biggest FA signings this off-season were massive busts and have already lost their starting roles not even halfway through the season.

[CRA]

37 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I've read his resumé... Morgan's too. Hell, the profiles written up by various sources when both of them got here will tell you that.

If you look up articles about them you'll see the same thing, especially ones discussing the division of labor between Scott Fitterer and Trent Kirchner in Seattle.

Seems selective to excuse him from a bunch of the shitshow mess that has gone down here.  I mean he is our GM and now being tagged somehow as just a draft guy. 

But let’s say it’s all true.  All the more reason to part with the guy then.  We need a real GM.  Who can do more than just poorly handle the draft primarily.   Because our drafts under Fitt have sucked and he brings little else to the table then.  

 

[Mr. Scot]

18 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

He has actually had an ex-GM routinely helping him for about 2 years now.  He even paid him on contract for a time being.  It's not the name you'd like to hear though.  

i.e. not Colbert

Who is the name you're hearing?

[Aussie Tank]

The best sides hit big in the middle of the draft. I’d move on from Fitt in the off-season but keep Reich for Bryce’s development 

[Mr. Scot]

2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Define "improvement". I mean, ending up with 5 wins would still mean a significant improvement down the stretch but yeah, I'd probably still say that this front office needs to go.

They made moves thinking they had positioned this roster much better off than reality has proven. We're pretty strapped on draft capital in the short term and are going to have to lean heavily on FA to compensate. These guys' two biggest FA signings this off-season were massive busts and have already lost their starting roles not even halfway through the season.

I'm not looking at win totals, though that would be nice too.

Mainly just interested in how the team looks.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

I'm not looking at win totals, though that would be nice too.

Mainly just interested in how the team looks.

Well, when the brass and telling everyone that will listen how were ready to compete and win the division then you probably end up last in the division I'm left thinking that maybe these people don't know what they're doing.

[Ornias]

28 minutes ago, Aussie Tank said:

The best sides hit big in the middle of the draft. I’d move on from Fitt in the off-season but keep Reich for Bryce’s development 

Except any legit GM is going to want to pick his own coach. We have done this staggered changes before and they never work. 

[Aussie Tank]

33 minutes ago, Ornias said:

Except any legit GM is going to want to pick his own coach. We have done this staggered changes before and they never work. 

And changing systems ruin young QBs I’d rather get a GM that had a track record or part of a system that has had success drafting players that fit Reich’s system. 

[stratocatter]

I think some of the problem is the coaches were evaluating and asking for certain players. GM wants to help them, this really looks like Zavalas and Johnson and…. 

[mrcompletely11]

2 minutes ago, stratocatter said:

I think some of the problem is the owners were evaluating and asking for certain players. GM wants to help them, this really looks like Zavalas and Johnson and…. 

fxd

[stratocatter]

Campen didn’t look unhappy.