Why I believe Jake will retire this offseason.

[Guild]

Best outcome: Jake retires and works on as a consultant to make the money he would have gotten as a player.

In case you were wondering Jake's job would be to do this:

"Jake what would you do in this situation?"

"Well I'd *blah blah*"

"Alright Matt don't do that"

[Kakarot]

Fix for you. :thumbsup:

Naw, he had it right the first time.

[PantherDude]

Yeah...Jake as a QB coach...real smart.

Would you rather he throw the ball again then?

Being a QB coach is different than playing a game: you don't have to worry about someone taking you down.

[Sword]

bring back NFL Europe/World League so Jake can go play over there...

[weyco2000]

I agree with him retiring, he will be released otherwise. If he is released another team might pick him up as a back-up later in the season but I dont see teams lining up to sign him. I think the Panthers cut their losses and draft a QB in the draft. Jake is done and now every team in the NFL knows it. Keeping him as a back-up only creates more problems and its not like he's going come in and win a game for you. It's not 2003 people, quit living in the past. I think Big Cat takes charge and tells Fox or his replacement, enough is enough! By the way nice move Marty, you suck!

[Gman was right]

No one is saying the panthers should keep jake. They're saying Jake isnt going to retire when the team still owes him $12 million guaranteed. If he's going to leave its because the team cut him so he still gets his money. Its not that hard to understand.

[Bigdaddy8523]

I agree with him retiring, he will be released otherwise. If he is released another team might pick him up as a back-up later in the season but I dont see teams lining up to sign him. I think the Panthers cut their losses and draft a QB in the draft. Jake is done and now every team in the NFL knows it. Keeping him as a back-up only creates more problems and its not like he's going come in and win a game for you. It's not 2003 people, quit living in the past. I think Big Cat takes charge and tells Fox or his replacement, enough is enough! By the way nice move Marty, you suck!

If Jake is cut that would be retarded with the money that is on his contract. And to tell you the truth I think that if someone was hurt and Jake had to play He could win a game for us. I know this season was beyond normal bad Jake but belive me if Moore or some other qb went down Jake would be my 1st choice to come in cause bad season or not he's done it before.

[KillerKat]

Again...he gets paid the same amount of money whether we cut him or not. Jake can not win a game for us anymore. Stop being delusional. It's best just to cut him or he retire so that he never sees the field again.

[Cape Fear Cat]

I don't understand why people are so set against Jake having a chance to compete for the starting job next season. I agree with all of you that Jake really stank it up this year, but I also know he hasn't always been that way. He is a veteran who has given good service to this team. What does it hurt for him to come into camp and get the chance to prove he deserves to be the number one? If he can do it, fine. If he can't, then Moore is ready, or the team can go some other way. But I still believe Jake at least deserves the chance to try. What does that hurt?

[err456]

I don't understand why people are so set against Jake having a chance to compete for the starting job next season. I agree with all of you that Jake really stank it up this year, but I also know he hasn't always been that way. He is a veteran who has given good service to this team. What does it hurt for him to come into camp and get the chance to prove he deserves to be the number one? If he can do it, fine. If he can't, then Moore is ready, or the team can go some other way. But I still believe Jake at least deserves the chance to try. What does that hurt?

What hurts is Fox will start Jake over Moore if Jake shows any sign at all of playing better than in 09. That will put us right back to the listless conservative offense we had to begin with this year which means the Def will be on the field to long and and they will suffer and here we go again.

When one is on a diet you don't put cake in front of them and expect them not to eat it just because they know they shouldn't. Jake is Foxe's weakness and he will try his best to get him on the field to prove he didn't F..k Up giving him the big extension. I hope I am wrong!

[mountainpantherfan]

No one is saying the panthers should keep jake. They're saying Jake isnt going to retire when the team still owes him $12 million guaranteed. If he's going to leave its because the team cut him so he still gets his money. Its not that hard to understand.

Technically, we don't know for sure what the Panthers owe him. It was reported that the contract extention was with 20 million guarentted but Hureny denied that on a radio show earlier in the season saying that it was lower than that.

All we know for sure is that Jake was owed around 14 million for the 2009 season before the extention. Reports have said that the move saved the Panthers around 2 million in cap space. So if Jake got 12 million for 2009 and the guarentee was, lets say 18 million that would only leave 6 million due to Jake.

With that amount of money combined with the possibility of being disgracefully being cut, I could see Jake coming to a retirement settlement.

As I said in the op, retirement will probably be something forced on Jake more than anything.

[uncpanther]

Typical of fairweather fan. They only root for their team when a player they don't like is playing. If people are going to be a fan of the team, then stick with them no matter what. Not saying you have like or agree with the situation, but you should stand by your team. Otherwise, you're not rooting for Stewart, Smitty, Beason, etc. either with not wanting to watch them play beside Jake.

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Actually I have been a fan from the beginning and have watched every game that I could , even with the 1-15 season I watched every game so no I am not a fair weather fan asshole. I will always be a Panther fan and I am not jumping onto the hot team at the moment. I will just not watch any NFL football if Jake starts next year until he is benched. I take exception to a head coach making the biggest blunder in NFL history by starting Jake over Matt again because they are in each others back pocket. I am sorry but that is just stupidity of the highest degree. I refuse to watch a team that has an owner that will stand by and let this team lose because of some stubborn coach that makes decisions based on what is best for him and not the team. I am HIGHLY upset that we had a playoff caliber team and did not make the playoffs, are you upset about that? or are you just a blind follower of whatever the hell goes on. Fair weather my ass.

[weyco2000]

I understand we owe the guy a boatload of money but if he's gonna be a backup, then its better to take the hit now, instead of waiting. Jake has not been the same since his surgery and his team quit on him this year. Anyway not sure Moore wants to look over his shoulder and see Jake stalking him in his "hoodie", once an old guy loses his spot its time for him to go. What team can Jake beat when he throws 8 TD, 18 INT and fumbles 6 times?

[KatsAzz]

There are 12 million reasons why Jake would want to stay. I am not sure how his contract is structured,so it could be possible the Panthers let him "RETIRE" ,if the hit to them is not to great.This will be an interesting situation to keep our eye on.