This is why you don't sign Vick

[CharlotteBeer.com]

what dont u understand.....walk a mile in another mans shoes before u judge what hes doing as wrong. get off ur high horse and live 24 hours as a "poor person" in a sh!t hole. have u been to newport news aka "bad news". i have...not a place where u d want to raise ur kids and have the make friends. but if ur forced 2....ur kids would make friends with whoever is there.

You don't know what any of us have been through. You can be poor regardless of your skin color, and believe it or not -- you can be a poor and moral person as well. It is tougher when you are hungry and willing to do anything for money, but Vick was far from that.

A better man would have found another way to help his friends. There's really no excuse for what Vick did, so let's not even go there. I deplore what he did, but I'm glad that he's getting another chance. I just don't want him in Carolina.

[Panthers_Lover]

what dont u understand.....walk a mile in another mans shoes before u judge what hes doing as wrong. get off ur high horse and live 24 hours as a "poor person" in a sh!t hole. have u been to newport news aka "bad news". i have...not a place where u d want to raise ur kids and have the make friends. but if ur forced 2....ur kids would make friends with whoever is there.

Morals are morals, rich or poor.

[micnificent28]

Okay. Wow.

I've never struck a woman, not in any fashion. In my world that isn't even something that's acceptable to consider, let alone do.

But you can't equate the slapping of another human being to taking a living, breathing creature (one with a very complex emotional structure), putting it into a tub of water before applying a current to it in order to electrocute it, making sure it was dead.

A slap could be passed off as something that happened in the heat of the moment. The systematic murder of animals cannot, and as someone stated earlier, is a sign of a sociopath.\

I'll go as far as saying I wouldn't be surprised if he got a rush for it, I'll even add on that I wouldn't be surprised if he received a sexual thrill from it.

as much feeling as u attach to a dog a dog is still just an animal. while i do love dogs and dont agree with it,how is a dogs life more valuable than a deer. people hunt deer and hang their heads on the wall for fun. not for the meet just the thrill or rush some get from doing it and telling their friends look at the deer i killed. some in other countries eat dogs...no one is cring oh no their killing dogs and drowning them in a rich butter sauce....death is death i dont care if u kill me for fun or because u were starving, i'd just be mad that u killed me period. what makes a dogs life more valuable than a deer or rabbit or cow. if u want to bring up intelligence take a look at dolphins... alot smarter than dogs and are almost exstinct. no one cared how smart the fish were when we were eating them.

[CharlotteBeer.com]

as much feeling as u attach to a dog a dog is still just an animal. while i do love dogs and dont agree with it,how is a dogs life more valuable than a deer. people hunt deer and hang their heads on the wall for fun. not for the meet just the thrill or rush some get from doing it and telling their friends look at the deer i killed. some in other countries eat dogs...no one is cring oh no their killing dogs and drowning them in a rich butter sauce....death is death i dont care if u kill me for fun or because u were starving, i'd just be mad that u killed me period. what makes a dogs life more valuable than a deer or rabbit or cow. if u want to bring up intelligence take a look at dolphins... alot smarter than dogs and are almost exstinct. no one cared how smart the fish were when we were eating them.

Did Vick eat the dogs he killed? I think that's a big difference.

For what it's worth, I don't agree with hunting for sport either.

[scpanther22]

It's not about the controversy ... it's about the character.

its not about character..Its about the fact the panthers dont see vick as a good QB

What vick did was wrong..buts its in the past and a lot of good can come of this.Thats what people should focus on

[micnificent28]

Morals are morals, rich or poor.

and who gave u or the rest of the board the right to deside what is moral and what is not. that is the reason most of the world hates us. we act like what we do is what god would do and how we do it is the right thing to do. in the 1700s when white people found africans,white people deemed them to be savages and unintelligent. that their morals were wrong and it was ok to beat and rape them for fun. same situation here. all im stating is who gave u the right to be another mans judge and sentencers. morals just however u look at them whats right here might be wrong in china or vise versa.

[CharlotteBeer.com]

and who gave u or the rest of the board the right to deside what is moral and what is not. that is the reason most of the world hates us. we act like what we do is what god would do and how we do it is the right thing to do. in the 1700s when white people found africans,white people deemed them to be savages and unintelligent. that their morals were wrong and it was ok to beat and rape them for fun. same situation here. all im stating is who gave u the right to be another mans judge and sentencers. morals just however u look at them whats right here might be wrong in china or vise versa.

You're right -- not only is Michael Vick's dog-killing similar to the way whites killed Native Americans and Africans, but we should just abandon morality and law altogether.

Come on, man. Do you really think there should not be some sort of standard moral code? Are you that naive?

[micnificent28]

Did Vick eat the dogs he killed? I think that's a big difference.

For what it's worth, I don't agree with hunting for sport either.

if*(not going to) i killed would u care if i ate u???? would it make it better if i ate u...the point is death is death if u eat it or not the dog doesnt care if u have the excuse that u wanted something to eat,its mad its dead.

[CharlotteBeer.com]

if*(not going to) i killed would u care if i ate u???? would it make it better if i ate u...the point is death is death if u eat it or not the dog doesnt care if u have the excuse that u wanted something to eat,its mad its dead.

Would you rather die in your sleep, or would you rather die by being held under water while you thrash about furiously until your lungs fill with water and you suffocate?

I really can't believe I'm even entertaining this "debate."

[micnificent28]

You're right -- not only is Michael Vick's dog-killing similar to the way whites killed Native Americans and Africans, but we should just abandon morality and law altogether.

Come on, man. Do you really think there should not be some sort of standard moral code? Are you that naive?

i think ur reasonable...i love the fact we have laws and order its what makes us productive as a people. but who has the right to deside whats moral and whats not..would this have even been reported in china??? what im letting be known is people are making a huge deal out of this. its not moral,how moral is it that "people" in the united states are starving and homeless,people cant get jobs to feed their kids,and were here aruging and spending cash on court cases to put a man in jail for an animal.

[micnificent28]

Would you rather die in your sleep, or would you rather die by being held under water while you thrash about furiously until your lungs fill with water and you suffocate?

I really can't believe I'm even entertaining this "debate."

it d be more comfortable to die in sleep but in the end result is still the same i m dead. death is bad however it happens.

[Guild]

its mad its dead.

Actually no it isn't. It is no longer capable of such emotions as "mad" if it is dead.

[micnificent28]

Actually no it isn't. It is no longer capable of such emotions as "mad" if it is dead.

thats what i mean...if u stab me in the back or i die in a fight the end result is death...it wouldnt make feel better if u ate me.

[HSCBandit07]

words of wisdom

Every science has for its basis a system of principles as fixed and unalterable as those by which the universe is regulated and governed. Man cannot make principles; he can only discover them.

-Thomas Paine

Crimes of ignorance are just as bad as crimes committed with knowledge of right and wrong. If you want to go through life as an ignorant moron then that is your decision. You will be judged as equally as any other man. Newport News is as soft as the Charmin I wipe my ass with btw. Vick had every opportunity to grow out of the situation he was born into as does everyone else with balls and a desire to better themselves.