If You Think About It. Our Offense Is Capable Of Competing With The Best

[twylyght]

I wonder if our WR's were really as bad as we think they are. Both Warner and Rodgers made some no name receivers look pretty good today. Maybe our receiving corps is better than we think, but the problems at QB make them look worse than they are.

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I would like to see how good our WR corps is with a QB that can actually hit them in stride for a season before just arbitrarily jettisoning them for not being 10 tall and 2 steps slower.

[PantherDude]

Look at what Baltimore did to New England today. They ran the ball well and played great defense to dominate the Patriots -- and Flacco completed four passes for 34 yards.

That made me frustrated that Fox or Davidson or both made Jake throw more & not let Double Trouble on the loose last year in our Playoffs. If Ravens can win with rushing a lot & not using throw pass much, we could have the same success that way if we rush a lot than passing more.

[Panthers128]

I think the Panthers have good talent on their offense, the main problem is the offense lacks speed, and as crazy as this sounds, that starts with the QB. No, you don't need a scrambling QB, but a QB who can feel blitzes and move to prolong plays creates many more opportunities for fast players to wear down, beat defenders. Jake Delhomme could not do this as often as a good offense needs. Once the pocket starts collapsing he has very limited mobility. Matt Moore showed at times he can quickly feel blitzes and respond to them to beat a blitz and by time for receivers. He also can roll out quickly when needed to buy time for plays to develop.

If you look at the great offenses around the league, you'll find fast receivers who can stretch the field, and not just one. Also a tight end who can be a possession receiver. Although we have 3 tight ends who have contributed to our team, none of them seem to be consistent and often disappear from our offense.

Also there's the running back who catches out of the back field. Like i said about the tightends, we've seen glimpses of this, but not enough to make it a real threat.

I think because of Jake Delhomme's incompetence at QB and the run first and last attitude of John Fox has caused our offense to become incredibly simplified. If Moore starts next year and continues his impressive play, we'll get more first downs, more offensive plays, more opportunities to start plugging more passes to tight ends, more plays to the running back in the passing game and not just drop off bail outs, but schemed plays to them.

When you go three and out as often as Jake Delhomme did, you can't help but question everything on the offense. When passes aren't accurate, WR look slow and not open. Offense is like a machine and all the parts must be functioning for it to work. We definitely need one or two speed receivers.

[Wither]

I think because of Jake Delhomme's incompetence at QB and the run first and last attitude of John Fox has caused our offense to become incredibly simplified. If Moore starts next year and continues his impressive play, we'll get more first downs, more offensive plays, more opportunities to start plugging more passes to tight ends, more plays to the running back in the passing game and not just drop off bail outs, but schemed plays to them.

Nothing wrong with run-first as long a you can pass the ball when you need to, ala Jake vs Moore.

[thunderraiden]

Rofl, our running game is good but our QB is still unproven, like Dan Morgan said, lets see him after the first 4 games of the regular season and make a call after that on weather this kid is our QB of the future. As far as WR goes, Smith is only getting older and Moose isn't exactly what one would call a legitimate threat.

[OneBadassCat]

That made me frustrated that Fox or Davidson or both made Jake throw more & not let Double Trouble on the loose last year in our Playoffs. If Ravens can win with rushing a lot & not using throw pass much, we could have the same success that way if we rush a lot than passing more.

I agree that we should have ran the ball more in that game but Jake absolutely blew that game.

[OneBadassCat]

We aren't even remotely a top offense. A lot needs to be changed and added to be like what Arizona, New Orleans, and Green Bay currently are. That said, the way Fox gameplans enables us to compete with anyone. But it's our D, and ball and clock control that is the reason for it...not our offense. Give us a solid #2, a healthy O-Line, involve Barnidge more, start Moore, and use our amazing run game without being a "run first" team and then you're onto something. That aint Foxball though and, good as a coach as he is, he ain't changing his philosophy.

But would you say we are almost there personnel wise? I mean we have one of the best o-line's in league with depth now, the best RB duo ever, Steve Smith, and a promising player in Matt Moore.

I don't know I say if Moore started since the Bills game our offense would have been scary. But obviously we need a #2 WR.