How Good is Hurney?????

[E CaT PanTHer]

Who do you think was most responsible for Jake's contract??

I think it started with Fox convincing Hurney and Jerry that Delhomme was still his man and that the Arizona game was an aberration. Jerry obviously was convinced but it started with Fox for sure.

[AKPantherFan]

Who do you think was most responsible for Jake's contract??

no one knows..

I think JR actually...

He is the one who approves such a big deal, I am almost confident because Jake is his posterchild that it probably was him..

I still think Jake has a great chance at being our #1 going into week 1...

We will see.

This is the FIRST time JAKE has REAL competition going into training camp..

It will be interesting none the less...

[megadeth078]

Well, Hurney is the one that comes up with the numbers, but it wasn't his sole decision. You better believe Fox was assuring him that Jake "still has it", "just one game", "gives us the best chance to win", and all that other bullshit we've heard from him earlier this season.

Edit: E Cat beat me to it

[ladypanther]

I think it started with Fox convincing Hurney and Jerry that Delhomme was still his man and that the Arizona game was an aberration. Jerry obviously was convinced but it started with Fox for sure.

I think you are partly right...started with Fox. At that time JR prolly not strong enough to deal with it. Maybe part of why Jon got fired. Good bet it is a big part of why Foxy has been told it is fine if he leaves.

[Squirrel]

I think it started with Fox convincing Hurney and Jerry that Delhomme was still his man and that the Arizona game was an aberration. Jerry obviously was convinced but it started with Fox for sure.

Agreed, except for last season Hurney has done a good job. He couldnt do much last season due to Peppers deal. I think he should stay around.

[Mr. Scot]

Our drafts over the last 5 years have definetely been top 10 compared to other teams, possibly top 5. That's the biggest thing I look for as far as a GM.

Don Gregory took over the college scoting in 2006.

Hurney is as good as the support people he has feeding him info.

[Skew]

Here's my view:

Hurney has done well in the draft at most positions. He sucks when picking WRs.

But overall, I'm pleased with what he has done.

As for tagging Peppers, at the time, I thought it was the right thing to do. He did have a good season this year, but was it worth strapping us and preventing us from having quality backups at other positions? Not sure about that.

As for the Delhomme contract extension, I'm almost positive this was done NOT REALLY TO EXTEND JAKE'S CONTRACT, BUT TO GIVE US SOME CAP SPACE TO SIGN OTHER PLAYERS due to so much cap space being used on Peppers.

I truely believe that's the reason behind Jake's extension. I can't believe Hurney really thought of keeping Jake through the duration of that contract. Which I believed at the time, and still do that it was the smartest move to make. I think it's a contract the Panthers can easily walk away from if they want to, salary cap or not.

[AKPantherFan]

so if fox goes-- do you keep hurney?

[Squirrel]

so if fox goes-- do you keep hurney?

Hurney's staying either way.

[Skew]

yes.

[AKPantherFan]

i dont think so-- I think if Fox gets canned in 2011 so does Hurney...

Its kind of a marriage....

[mush]

Didn't we bring in a big free agent at the time in Adam Meadows in 2004? He was a solid starter in INDY for years and would have upgraded our offensive line had he not had a relapse of his shoulder problems. He ended up retiring early on and paid the Panthers his bonus back rather than string them along and being more harm to the team than good. I think there was another one too that year not as high profile. Remember Peppers tied up the cap this year pretty big. The team could have let him go and sign some free agents though.

Truth be told the team (won't blame it on Hurney specifically) may be lacking signing some of the cheap free agents we've done well with in years past like Na'il Diggs, Jason Baker, Marlon McCree, and Chris Draft. Solid starters who are cheap against the cap.

[monstercat]

I know one thing. Somebody deserves some credit for all of these low round and undrafted players that have been showing up and playing good football lately. Guys like Bernadeau, Schwartz, Tyrell Sutton, Matt Moore and Captain Munnerlynn have made some solid contributions to this team. I think Charly Martin could end up being one of those guys too...he just got here a little too late to do much.

As good as it is to hit on those 1st rounders, it's just as important to do well in the late rounds and to find those relatively cheap FA role players that can help you out, and this whole staff has done a great job of doing that.

[Snake]

i dont think so-- I think if Fox gets canned in 2011 so does Hurney...

Its kind of a marriage....

I dont see that. Just because Fox was Hurney's first coach dose not mean there a package deal. Hurney for the most part has done his job.

We hardly ever have draft picks to holdout.

We are known around the league as easy to deal with and that attracts Free agents.

We sign our core players to long term deal most of the time. The Peppers situation IMO is more about Peppers not having an agent at all really.

We draft smartly and until now dont try to reach for picks.