QB School - Bryce Young vs Vikings

[joemac]

56 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I like his stuff. His biggest flaw IMO is he tends to stick to his biases and preconceptions until he just can't defend them anymore. He was a big Bryce Young guy pre-draft. So for him to start being critic is pretty telling.

He really was not very critical of Bryce except on that one play.

[joemac]

23 minutes ago, CPcavedweller said:

You can't drop back 50 times a game and win. You can't throw the ball between the LOS and 20 yards out exclusively or the box will stay stacked. You can't expect a rookie QB to go out and win the game for you.

Go back to what made this line look deadly and run under center.

We're not going to see that again unfortunately.  They have moved from a power blocking scheme (which the line was built upon, and is their strength) to a zone blocking scheme for some retarded reason.

[outlaw4]

Somewhat discouraging that JT says he doesn't really know what the answer is to our offensive struggles given what we have. That said, couple of takeaways:

1. Way too many screens. Seems like a Reich tendency and unless it's a creative one and/or it goes to Chark/Shenault, rip it out of the playbook. 

2. Coaching staff has to get Young to take more chances. I do suspect they are limiting his opportunities to do so because we have protection issues and lack of playmakers but while interceptions can affect confidence, so does taking a chance and having it pay off. If we are going to lose regardless, go down learning how to swing.

3. Why in the world are we asking Thielen of all people to try double moves? We have maybe two guys on the roster that could make that work. 

4. Where are our tight ends in this offense? And no, Ian doesn't qualify as one.

5. Similar to 4, where is DJ? Seems that Thielen is the primary way too many times. 

[Eazy-E]

Biggest takeaway is that Bryce is not making the correct decisions based on the defensive sets he is looking at.

There were a few plays he goes into detail about Bryce needing to know what his first read should be based off the look the defense is showing him and not what the actual first read the play call asks for. Ignoring an entire side of the field even when the defense is begging you to throw that way when you are supposed to be a mental maestro is a pretty big red flag. 
 

@7:25 is a major example of this that he goes into detail about.

[Jackie Lee]

3 minutes ago, outlaw4 said:

 

5. Similar to 4, where is DJ? Seems that Thielen is the primary way too many times. 

I haven't gone through the whole thing yet but DJ is wide open on the first play of the video if Bryce just waits another tick and throws it up for him. Maybe told him to take the Thielen throw if he was open but we gotta take advantage of open looks downfield.  Too much playing not to lose

[outlaw4]

18 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

I haven't gone through the whole thing yet but DJ is wide open on the first play of the video if Bryce just waits another tick and throws it up for him. Maybe told him to take the Thielen throw if he was open but we gotta take advantage of open looks downfield.  Too much playing not to lose

I do fear the constant interior pressure is playing a factor. That's what was needed to shut down guys like Brady and Brees, quarterbacks that weren't supreme athletes themselves. Young is mobile enough for more designed rollouts, however. And do it early in the game on 1st down rather than waste it on a run that goes nowhere. 

[PanthersGOATFan336]

[NAS]

Bryce was more decisive on his read coming into the season, even the first game. He’s gettin ruined by a crap offensive line and terrible playcalling 

[Jay Roosevelt]

Damn, he killed Zavala.

[mc52beast]

Let me guess… If Bryce was able to hit AT and we get six y’all would just rip him for missing something else. This has got to be one of if not the worst fanbase in the NFL.

[mrcompletely11]

3 minutes ago, mc52beast said:

Let me guess… If Bryce was able to hit AT and we get six y’all would just rip him for missing something else. This has got to be one of if not the worst fanbase in the NFL.

keep us posted

[top dawg]

6 hours ago, Jaxel said:

I think it's obvious to a lot of people here that Bryce needs to trust his reads and let the ball rip.

Yes, it's obvious. Being that he is a rookie, you'd think that he will not only learn this, but the other characteristics and nuances of the pro game.

[top dawg]

41 minutes ago, NAS said:

Bryce was more decisive on his read coming into the season, even the first game. He’s gettin ruined by a crap offensive line and terrible playcalling 

That surely is a fear, but you'd think that being a psych guy that he'd be able to get past this. We'll find out. He never has had to suffer much adversity. We'll see what he's made of.

[Varking]

14 minutes ago, top dawg said:

That surely is a fear, but you'd think that being a psych guy that he'd be able to get past this. We'll find out. He never has had to suffer much adversity. We'll see what he's made of.

We are close to being at the point where he has more losses here in Carolina this year than he’s had in his career at Bama.