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For those dreaming of "what-ifs", Caleb Williams apparently has a destination list...would return to school otherwise

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3 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

It's also going to be extra embarrassing when a player does this and struggles.

It’s embarrassing when any draft pick struggles. That’s life. Doesn’t mean anybody should be force to live and work somewhere they personally don’t want to. The only other industry this is applicable to is the fuging Military. It’s stupid and exploitative. 

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2 minutes ago, Teddy2SuperBowlHeartBreaks said:

It’s embarrassing when any draft pick struggles. That’s life. Doesn’t mean anybody should be force to live and work somewhere they personally don’t want to. The only other industry this is applicable to is the fuging Military. It’s stupid and exploitative. 

They have the option to choose a different industry. That's the beauty of it. No one is forcing athletes to be miserably playing for a lowly team making literal millions.

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2 minutes ago, Teddy2SuperBowlHeartBreaks said:

It’s embarrassing when any draft pick struggles. That’s life. Doesn’t mean anybody should be force to live and work somewhere they personally don’t want to. The only other industry this is applicable to is the fuging Military. It’s stupid and exploitative. 

Yeah that was the least important in the list of reasons I listed.  

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1 minute ago, therealmjl said:

They have the option to choose a different industry. That's the beauty of it. No one is forcing athletes to be miserably playing for a lowly team making millions.

“Teachers know that the teaching profession is low paying before becoming teachers , therefore no teacher should ever even bother with inquiring about a pay raise” 

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19 minutes ago, therealmjl said:

Any prospect allowing agents to float out a short list of NFL teams he would "only go to" while still in school is a red flag to me. I don't care, NIL whatever. It's simply not how it works.

Caleb's situation is different. He doesn't have to come out this year. He has an extra year of eligibility left. Why come out early and play for a bad franchise like the Bears. Chicago has a terrible history of developing QB's and competing for championships. People keep saying he's missing out on a 2nd big contract.

Question for you guys: How many QB's that flame out in the NFL on their rookie deal with a bad franchise go on to get a "2nd big contract"?

Mitch Trubinsky was drafted #3 with the Bears. He had some moments where he looked ok, but like nearly all QB's who play there, he was shown the door w/out much success. They didn't even pick up his 5th year option. He's in Pittsburgh now backing up Kenny Pickett. I don't recall him getting a massive deal on contract #2.

If Caleb goes there and the Bears continue the trend they have maintained since the Super Bowl era, they'll be looking to replace him with the next 1st round prospect. Justin Fields isn't even midway thru his 3rd year in the NFL and the team may be willing to move off if him if Caleb decides to come out. If that transpires, do you think Justin is going to be poised to break the bank with his next deal?

 

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2 hours ago, Varking said:

It’s all just delaying the inevitable. Chicago could just repeat and get the first overall pick again. Then he has to go there. 10 mil in NIL isn’t worth slowing down the pace to get to a second NFL contract. And that’s where the big money is. He also risks being injured and having his stock drop. He isn’t winning a Natty at USC so what would he be returning for? The endorsement deals if he hits big in Chicago is significantly greater than any NIL deal. 

I rather stay in LA for the next 2 years then go play in cold Chicago.

 

Also you do realize USC has a realistic shot at winning a Natty with Caleb. Not sure why you think he has no shot at a Nat'l championship.

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6 hours ago, carpanfan96 said:

Nah his NIL deal is worth more yearly than an NFL rookie contract. 

No it isn't.  Caleb Williams is making an estimate of $2.6m in NIL this year.

People just keep looking at base salary.  It doesn't account for the guaranteed money / signing bonus that you get when you sign your rookie contract as a top-5 draft pick.  Like do people really think Caleb Williams would make more in NIL than what, for example, Trevor Lawrence has already made? 

NIL money means more for guys who don't have great NFL aspirations.  If you are going to be the No. 1 overall pick, then no, NIL money does not trump the money you get when you sign your rookie contract. For example, Bryce Young's signing bonus was $26 million.  Even if Caleb Williams got another $2.5 next year, it would still take him 5 more college seasons to make what Bryce Young just made by signing a contract.  On top of all the money you can still get from sponsors post-NFL.  AND on top of that, your rookie contract is basically guaranteed unless you suck and your team releases you, and that isn't happening to the No. 1 Overall Pick.  Whereas you are jeopardizing yourself with a potential injury if you return to college.

Again NIL makes more sense for someone like Stetson Bennett.  Someone who went late in the draft and won't have a huge signing bonus.  He could conceivably make more from NIL than his rookie contract.  But Caleb Williams?  He absolutely would be sacrificing money next year by returning to USC and making himself susceptible to injury or worse, regression in performance.  AND be setting himself a year back from signing the lucrative NFL QB extension. 

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1 hour ago, SCO96 said:

Caleb's situation is different. He doesn't have to come out this year. He has an extra year of eligibility left. Why come out early and play for a bad franchise like the Bears. Chicago has a terrible history of developing QB's and competing for championships. People keep saying he's missing out on a 2nd big contract.

So what does he do if an equally bad organization is picking #1 next year?

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