i really fucking wish this would be the way the Panthers organization was run

[Carl Spackler]

Please. If there's any team moving to LA it will not be the Carolina Panthers. See Rams, Jaguars, etc.

[frash.exe]

Please. If there's any team moving to LA it will not be the Carolina Panthers. See Rams, Jaguars, etc.

don't kid yourself all it takes is for Richardson to become incapacitated and with new unprepared ownership all of a sudden it becomes a real possibility.

[Pimpdaddy]

not to mention this is one 8-8 season off 4 straight playoff berths, 4 playoff victories, and one superbowl championship win.

If the Panthers could ever accomplish something like that and then go .500 afterwards, i don't even think our more passive fans would even give a poo about what happened.

Those bitches are way over due for a let down.... the ironic part of all of this is they want John Fox, I say give it to them.

[Gman was right]

Wrong again Gman as usual. Fassel was fired during the 2003 season. Since Couglin came in 2004 they have had 3 winning seasons out of 6. Outside of the improbable super bowl run in 2007, they haven't won a playoff game otherwise under Coughlin. Honestly Fox came within a field goal of winning a ring himself. Coughlin should be on the hotseat and is not better than Fox at this point. They have better talent than we do at this point but the results haven't been much better other than 2007 which was admittedly a fluke given they barely made the playoffs.

Yes but they went to the playoffs four times and coughlin is on the hotseat for the second time despite winning a super bowl. Because elite teams don't accept mediocrity like the panthers do

[ed bell]

The Giants ownership said that the GM and Coach will be in place for 2010. That ain't the "hot seat". The rookie D.C. was fired to appease the angry fans. Made it look like something was done. The players should be the ones on the "hot seat". They absolutely gave up and turned into one of the worst teams in the league in two short games. Since I don't care about the G-boys, it was funny to watch.

[Raskle]

One thing I can almost guarantee -- you would never hear the Giants organization stating that they try for 3 out of 4 wins.

Remember.. a 75 is a "C", not the "A" we all want.

[kdrh5]

Haven't we all seen this "too little too late" act under Fox before? Or is everyone just scared of what might be if Fox isnt here. Just like people were scared of letting Peppers go, because of how good he might be with a change of scenery. Or scared to bench Delhomme after the first game of the year when he clearly had lost whatever made him a functional QB, because Moore might be worse. Even though we might be better off without Fox and with a new attitude, one that shoots for winning every game and playing to win, consistently.

[HPPantherzfan]

How many teams over the past 8 years can say that? No one is accepting mediocrity only saying that the worst we do under Fox is to be average or finish in the middle. At best we are in the Superbowl. There is a big difference between liking average and never finishing below average.

7 - 9 = below average / 3 years

8-8 = middle / 2 years

above that / 3 years

Sounds to me a lot of people on this board went from fire Fox! To medicrity is where we belong, lets give him one more chance...AGAIN!

As for the teams that can say that I'm sure it would be about half the league

[Gman was right]

The Giants ownership said that the GM and Coach will be in place for 2010. That ain't the "hot seat". The rookie D.C. was fired to appease the angry fans. Made it look like something was done. The players should be the ones on the "hot seat". They absolutely gave up and turned into one of the worst teams in the league in two short games. Since I don't care about the G-boys, it was funny to watch.

The fact that the owner had to come out and say that is proof that he is on the.hotseat otherwise ther would be no reason to bring it up. Rest assure another non winning season like this next year and coughlin will be gone

[Sandy Claws]

if i wanted to be a giants fan i wouldn't need a message board to discuss the team

You live in Jersey (which exit?). You praise the Giants organization and criticize the Panthers'. What makes you a Panther fan?:confused:

[DaCityKats]

after that philly game, i threw the towel in on fox.im done with him.him playing not to lose the game, and conservative style will never win a super bowl. plus if he is here next year, look for delhomme to start.im tired of other teams going to playoffs winning year in and out.

[HPPantherzfan]

after that philly game, i threw the towel in on fox.im done with him.him playing not to lose the game, and conservative style will never win a super bowl. plus if he is here next year, look for delhomme to start.im tired of other teams going to playoffs winning year in and out.

LOL, I was at that game...it was my GF first ever NFL game. We left at half time and all I could say all the way home was sorry!

[DaCityKats]

LOL, I was at that game...it was my GF first ever NFL game. We left at half time and all I could say all the way home was sorry!

my brother and i went and i was embarrsed as fug.he is an eagles fan, and he couldnt even talk poo bc he felt bad for me. it was just sad, after a while he stopped cheering because the game was to ugly.

[HPPantherzfan]

my brother and i went and i was embarrsed as f**k.he is an eagles fan, and he couldnt even talk poo bc he felt bad for me. it was just sad, after a while he stopped cheering because the game was to ugly.

I know right! Here I am trying to convience her that being a Dallas fan is dumb and I'm pulling for a team getting beat 30 to zip at half and the other team has a total of like 14 yards in offense...needless to say it didn't go over well.