Boy could we use Brandon Marshall...

[GreatPoupon]

You do realize Sidney Rice had done about as much in the league as DJ until they got Favre right....

and whats he done now? so youre arguing that favre would have throw the ball to dwayne Jarret? have you watched him play, b/c half the time brett just throws it up for sidney to go get it. sounds perfect for jake to me. OR maybe youre saying that tavares jackson is much worse than jake, maybe before this year i would have agreed with you.

point is we need to DRAFT a good WR. not bring in pricey FA's that have baggage.

[GreatPoupon]

Sidney Rice would have sucked here, with Delhomme at QB anyway. He hasn't done anything till this year with Farve

they didnt really throw the ball till Farve so i dont think this is good evidence that sidney is not better than DJ. he's done much more THIS year and thats b/c he's a better player. half the time bret just flings it to him in coverage for sidney to go make a play a la jake D.

[Baschski]

Too expensive, off-field problems, wouldn't want to take a back seat to Smitty, wouldn't want to be in our run-heavy offense.

It's a pipedream, guys. Think more along the lines of Lance Moore, Davone Bess, Kevin Walter.

[GreatPoupon]

You do realize Sidney Rice had done about as much in the league as DJ until they got Favre right....

is this "about as much" to you????

Dwayne Jarrett -

2008 10 rec 119 yards 0 td

2007 6 rec 73 yds 0 td

sidney Rice

2008 15 rec 141yards 4 tds

2007 31 rec 396 yds 4 tds

[LaChance87]

Jarrett never had a chance this year... earlier in the year with delhomme, all he would do is fling it the air to Smith (one of the nfl more dominate recievers) and smiths numbers were down this year. The other WRs on the team hardley got any balls thrown their way except Moose... Its not fair to write off Jarrett just yet I mean Favre compared to Delhomme as far as quaterback ability? Come on he's 40 and plaing the best ball of his career... Jarrett would be definatly be considered a better wr with favre as his qb, Rice would be nothing if he was in carolina.

[C47]

they didnt really throw the ball till Farve so i dont think this is good evidence that sidney is not better than DJ. he's done much more THIS year and thats b/c he's a better player. half the time bret just flings it to him in coverage for sidney to go make a play a la jake D.

We don't throw the ball all that much either, we are a running team which is why its so important to have a QB that doesn't turn the ball over. Sorry there is nothing that Sidney Rice does that DJ can't do Sidney just played with an elite QB all year where as Dwayne played with a terrible QB with tunnel vision, and a decent (with the chance to be good or even great) QB in Moore. I'm not at all against upgrading the WR position through the draft or FA but to say that Sidney is a better player after looking at both players situations is just idiotic.

[C47]

is this "about as much" to you????

Dwayne Jarrett -

2008 10 rec 119 yards 0 td

2007 6 rec 73 yds 0 td

sidney Rice

2008 15 rec 141yards 4 tds

2007 31 rec 396 yds 4 tds

in 2007 Jarrett was hardly active due to the coaching staff's ignorance/ him not knowing the playbook as well as he should. 2008 we were destroying teams running the ball so had no use for a third receiver, this is evident by looking at Hackett's stats last year. Sorry Sidney Rice is a big receiver just like Dwayne is, DJ playing with a legitimate QB for a full season getting chances to make plays and this could be laughable next year.

[GreatPoupon]

We don't throw the ball all that much either' date=' we are a running team which is why its so important to have a QB that doesn't turn the ball over. Sorry there is nothing that Sidney Rice does that DJ can't do Sidney just played with an elite QB all year where as Dwayne played with a terrible QB with tunnel vision, and a decent (with the chance to be good or even great) QB in Moore. I'm not at all against upgrading the WR position through the draft or FA but to say that Sidney is a better player after looking at both players situations is just idiotic.[/quote']

WHAT! "we dont pass much either" true but still more than MN in those two seasons so that arguement doesnt work either.

2007 MN passing yards - 2745

2008 MN passing yards - 2956

2007 CAR passing yards - 2735

2008 CAR passing yards - 3158

"Sorry there is nothing that Sidney Rice does that DJ can't do Sidney just played with an elite QB all year where as Dwayne played with a terrible QB with tunnel vision,"

oh really so you'd rather have brooks bollinger and gus Ferotte eh? i'm talking about 2007 and 2008 here... but if you look at this season and say "Sidney just played with an elite QB" then you out of your mind.

2009 83 rec 1312 yds 8 td is ELLITE WR. much better than DJ my friend. Dwayne Jarrett might end up being better than he is now. but Sidney rice would have been a better draft choice hands down.

like i said too bad the vikes stole him from us in the second.

[GreatPoupon]

in 2007 Jarrett was hardly active due to the coaching staff's ignorance/ him not knowing the playbook as well as he should. 2008 we were destroying teams running the ball so had no use for a third receiver' date=' this is evident by looking at Hackett's stats last year. Sorry Sidney Rice is a big receiver just like Dwayne is, DJ playing with a legitimate QB for a full season getting chances to make plays and this could be laughable next year.[/quote']

funny you should mention DJ hackett in 2008 b/c he actually had more catches and yards that Jarrett that year. is that dude even playing anywhere this season???

[guyinchesapeake]

I wouldn't take Marshall. Yes, he has tons of talent, which are well balanced by his tons of problems due to his attitude. He's the proverbial million dollar body tied to a five cent head. We need help at WR, no doubt. Marshall is not worth the risk. I'd rather try for Boldin if I were to go after someone who has a rep for being unhappy. I think his situation is different as far as what the source of his discontent is. He's proved that he has talent and guts. I don' think a team has to tie themselves into a #1, #2 receiver mindset. Who is # 1 on, say, NE, is it Moss or Welker? Obviously, it depends on the game situation, and how well the QB can look his receivers off.

[C47]

funny you should mention DJ hackett in 2008 b/c he actually had more catches and yards that Jarrett that year. is that dude even playing anywhere this season???

Their stats are actually virtually identical especially when you include the fact that Hackett had an extra start.....as to the qb's Rice had in 2007 and 2008 Rice was also used way more in their offense then DJ was because they had 0 options at WR. Sorry if you cant see that Sidney Rice is nothing special and that Favre made him then thats your problem not anyone else's on this board....

[2jakefansinva]

Obviously Brandon Marshall is not a happy camper in Denver... and boy could we use his talents. Given our FO's track record, I see it as unlikely that we would be interested in Marshall based on his off-field shenanigans and that's a shame - Marshall's talent combined with our need make it a risk worth taking IMO.

Thoughts?

He's one of those that won't be happy anywhere and neither will what ever org. signs him.

[GreatPoupon]

Their stats are actually virtually identical especially when you include the fact that Hackett had an extra start.....as to the qb's Rice had in 2007 and 2008 Rice was also used way more in their offense then DJ was because they had 0 options at WR. Sorry if you cant see that Sidney Rice is nothing special and that Favre made him then thats your problem not anyone else's on this board....

1. DJ hacket isnt even playing right now and he was better than jarrett. 2. 70 yards is alot when its over half your total yardage.

first you said that MN doesnt pass much, but as you were proven wrong, we see they indeed passed for more than CAR. second you said that rice did "about the same" as DJ in that time span, which was again shown to be incorrect. now you say that Rice only had 1312 yards and 8 tds because brett favre is throwing him the ball. favre didnt do that with jerricho cotchery in 2008... is he also better than DJ? you keep striking out and now you're calling for some back up from the "rest of the board" please dude Sidney rice is much better that Dwayne Jarrett. you have failed time after time to show anything that remotely resembles proof otherwise.

[C47]

1. DJ hacket isnt even playing right now and he was better than jarrett. 2. 70 yards is alot when its over half your total yardage.

first you said that MN doesnt pass much, but as you were proven wrong, we see they indeed passed for more than CAR. second you said that rice did "about the same" as DJ in that time span, which was again shown to be incorrect. now you say that Rice only had 1312 yards and 8 tds because brett favre is throwing him the ball. favre didnt do that with jerricho cotchery in 2008... is he also better than DJ? you keep striking out and now you're calling for some back up from the "rest of the board" please dude Sidney rice is much better that Dwayne Jarrett. you have failed time after time to show anything that remotely resembles proof otherwise.

First of all I never said MN doesn't pass much, I actually implied they passed more then Carolina by stating that Carolina is primarily a running team so DJ hardly gets on the field. There is a big difference in Favre last year and Favre this year, for starters this year Favre has played just 5 games outside of a dome, playing without the elements can greatly enhance stats. Also Favre has had the comfort of having a top tier defense that has forced turnovers and gotten the Vikes O the ball back in position to put up touchdowns. Favre is also healthier this year and just playing way better this year then EVER in his career. I don't think many here will dispute that if Rice and Jarrett switched places the receiver with a brighter future would appear to be Jarrett. Rice is nothing special and for that matter neither is Cotchery. Now I know your going to spin this as me saying DJ is special but I'm not saying that either, DJ is an unknown, he was unstoppable in college and IMO if given the chance to be can be very dangerous in the NFL. However to say Rice is much better then Jarrett when only one player has gotten the oppurtunity to start the majority of their games and play a full season with an ELITE QB is just insane. Oh and one more thing, please show me where I tried to ask the board for help.