Steve Smith Sr. Wants You All To Relax

[top dawg]

22 minutes ago, frankw said:

I've acknowledged there are multiple problems. Bryce Young however is at the center of those problems. He's got to adjust and play differently and the coaching staff has to put him in that position. But until proven otherwise defenses are simply not going to be scared of his arm. I don't like it. It's really depressing. But that's the rub.

Reich is the center of the problem. For the life of me, I don't get how you guys think that his arm just suddenly disappeared just because he got to the pros. Anyone intimating that he has a noodle arm is simply not interested in truth because that wasn't on his college tape, nor is it on any scouting report.

Edited October 4, 2023 by top dawg

[frankw]

7 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Reich is the center of the problem. For the life of me, I don't get how you guys think that his arm just suddenly disappeared just because he got to the pros. Anyone intimating that he has a noodle arm is simply not interested in truth because that wasn't on his college tape, nor is it on any scouting report.

I don't think he has a noodle arm but he does definitely look small and lacks physicality out there the other top 2 QB's have shown in this league. You simply cannot deny that unless you are engaging in self deception. It's up to Bryce to make defensive coordinators and defensive backs believe he can and will beat them deep. Nobody cares about college anymore.

Edited October 4, 2023 by frankw

[USDepartmentOfSavagery]

2 hours ago, ForJimmy said:

So Smith tells fans to relax and have some patience and suddenly he is Tepper's minion. 

JT does a film review and he doesn't always know what he is talking about (unless it's any other QB).  

We have someone post a play by play review with video evidence and shows some positivity and they are just trying to desperately salvage this situation. 

Regardless there is some progressions.  Game 1- 52.6% 3.8 yards avg with 146 total yards.  Game 2- 66.7% 4.6 avg 153 total yards.  Game 3- 78.1% 6.4 avg 204 total yards.  Ratings jumps from 48.8 to 87.1 to 93.2.  Despite this terrible OG play and conservative play calling Young IS progressing.

by week 10, it'll be fun to call these guys out for back peddling 

[ForJimmy]

1 minute ago, USDepartmentOfSavagery said:

by week 10, it'll be fun to call these guys out for back peddling 

He would have to be damn near perfect for some people to give him credit. 

[LinvilleGorge]

32 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Reich is the center of the problem. For the life of me, I don't get how you guys think that his arm just suddenly disappeared just because he got to the pros. Anyone intimating that he has a noodle arm is simply not interested in truth because that wasn't on his college tape, nor is it on any scouting report.

Plenty of us talked about arm talent concerns pre-draft. Why did the offense have a credible downfield attack with Dalton?

[therealmjl]

4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Plenty of us talked about arm talent concerns pre-draft. Why did the offense have a credible downfield attack with Dalton?

Considering we threw the ball 58 times I'm sure a handful of those involved some downfield playcalls.

Since you keep beating this point to death, can you point out how many downfield routes were run on Sunday? It would help drive whatever point you are trying to make home.

Edited October 4, 2023 by therealmjl

[*FreeFua*]

2 minutes ago, therealmjl said:

Considering we threw the ball 58 times I'm sure a handful of those involved some downfield playcalls.

Since you keep beating this point to death, can you point out how many downfield routes were run on Sunday? It would help drive whatever point you are trying to make home.

Two that instantly come to mind 

1. the seam ball Young should’ve thrown for a TD to Theilen

2. the ball he threw just behind Theilen in the middle of the field, Chark was running deep down the middle. Had he waited a split second longer he would’ve seen Chark turn around 

Lastly it’s hard to really know because our super processor was busy getting fooled by Flores and checking into a screen play 95% of the time 

I’m about to watch the all 22. Not sure how much I’ll be able to sit through but we’ll see

[LinvilleGorge]

7 minutes ago, therealmjl said:

Considering we threw the ball 58 times I'm sure a handful of those involved some downfield playcalls.

Since you keep beating this point to death, can you point out how many downfield routes were run on Sunday? It would help drive whatever point you are trying to make home.

No clue. I'm not watching the all 22. All I know is that we threw downfield with Dalton more on one game than we have in three with Bryce and we did it effectively. And all I'm asking is why y'all think that might be? The goalposts of excuses keep moving but our offense keeps looking the same with Bryce.

[therealmjl]

3 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

Two that instantly come to mind 

1. the seam ball Young should’ve thrown for a TD to Theilen

2. the ball he threw just behind Theilen in the middle of the field, Chark was running deep down the middle. Had he waited a split second longer he would’ve seen Chark turn around 

Lastly it’s hard to really know because our super processor was busy getting fooled by Flores and checking into a screen play 95% of the time 

I’m about to watch the all 22. Not sure how much I’ll be able to sit through but we’ll see

It would be good to see your takes on what went wrong versus @TheCasillason what went right in terms of Bryce. I thought Sunday was an improvement over weeks 1 and 2. 

[therealmjl]

4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

No clue. I'm not watching the all 22. All I know is that we threw downfield with Dalton more on one game than we have in three with Bryce and we did it effectively. And all I'm asking is why y'all think that might be? The goalposts of excuses keep moving but our offense keeps looking the same with Bryce.

I mean, the goalposts don't need to move very far. We have no running game and a guy calling plays who doesn't believe in him. 

[KSpan]

8 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

No clue. I'm not watching the all 22. All I know is that we threw downfield with Dalton more on one game than we have in three with Bryce and we did it effectively. And all I'm asking is why y'all think that might be? The goalposts of excuses keep moving but our offense keeps looking the same with Bryce.

It's interesting also comparing Bruce's 3 passing charts - the passes have been getting closer and closer to the LOS each game.

[TheCasillas]

20 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

2. the ball he threw just behind Theilen in the middle of the field, Chark was running deep down the middle. Had he waited a split second longer he would’ve seen Chark turn around 

that was a decoy to bring the safeties high so they couldnt sit on the crossing route. Look how Chark runs at about 75-80% speed and just moves left and right between both safeties as he goes up field. He even flips his head over his shoulder to see if the ball had been thrown yet... he was not an intended target on that play.

Edited October 4, 2023 by TheCasillas

[TheCasillas]

29 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

1. the seam ball Young should’ve thrown for a TD to Theilen

if you are talking about the play toward the very end of the game, that was not a seam route. It was a deep crossing route. The play was designed to go to the back of the end zone.

[PanthersGOATFan336]

1 hour ago, top dawg said:

Reich is the center of the problem. For the life of me, I don't get how you guys think that his arm just suddenly disappeared just because he got to the pros. Anyone intimating that he has a noodle arm is simply not interested in truth because that wasn't on his college tape, nor is it on any scouting report.

You cant read well huh