Couple interesting things….

[OUCPFL]

45 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

You gotta chill. You no like Bryce Young. We get it. He’s going to be here a while so I suggest you cope with that 

I hope not. I'm at the point where I hope they trade him in the offseason. 3 more years will be 8 years of crap ball with consistent 5 win seasons. Yes, I think Bryce is a bust. Yes. I'm done with the experiment. I'm also done watching this team consistently. 

[OUCPFL]

While I agree with the idea that 4 games isn’t nearly enough of a sample size to determine how good (or bad) a young QB, I believe that the process has been accelerated. Teams are getting to the “you’re our future” decision in year 2 in a lot of cases.

2022 (in year 2):

- Kenny Pickett (jury’s still out)
- Desmond Ridder (I think we already know that he isn’t an NFL starter).
- Malik Willis (same as Ridder)
- Sam Howell (wait until the end of year 3, he hasn’t been bad so far).

2021 (currently IN year 3):
- Trevor Lawrence (he’s already been stamped “legit”).
- Zach Wilson (already written off)
- Trey Lance (given up on by the team that drafted him).
- Justin Fields (his team is already looking forward to drafting Caleb Williams)
- Mac Jones (this will be his last year as the starter in New England)

That’s a lot of decisions that haven’t had to wait until the end of year three.

2020 (year 4)
- Joe Burrow (he was in a Super Bowl in year 2)
- Tua Tagovailoa (McDaniel committed to him before the start of year 3)
- Justin Herbert (got the stamp of approval in year 1)
- Jordan Love (there wasn’t enough (any?) data his first three years).
- Jalen Hurts (in the Super Bowl—and got the bag—at the end of year 3).

2019 (year 5):
- Kyler Murray (was thought to be the future after year 3, but now his future is in doubt. So was that evaluation wrong, or did bad coaching fail him?)
- Daniel Jones (he’s not that dude—and it didn’t take me three years to see it—but the Giants just paid him like he is).
- Dwayne Haskins (RIP)
- Drew Lock (led the league in interceptions in year 2, Broncos gave up on him in year three and then overpaid for Russell Wilson to replace him).

2180.
- Baker Mayfield (if you’d asked the Browns in 2020–after year 3–they would have told you that Mayfield was the franchise QB. They bailed on him after the next season (clearly 3 years wasn’t enough to properly evaluate him)).
- Sam Darnold (the Jets knew he was a bust before the end of his third season).
- Josh Allen (he went from completing 58.8% of his passes for 3,089 yards, 20 TDs and 9 INTs in year 2 to 69.2%, 4,544 yards, 37 TDs and 10 INTs in year 3. People may have thought he was good in year 2, but we didn’t don’t know until year three how good he could actually be)
- Josh Rosen (Cardinals figured it out in his first year).
- Lamar Jackson (won the MVP in year 2).

2017
- Mitchell Trubisky (Bears didn’t figure this out until year 4).
- Patrick Mahomes (MVP in year 2).
- Deshaun Watson (Texans gave him the Thumbs up after year 2. He decided that he didn’t want to play for them anymore…and then the “allegations” hit the streets).

2016
- Jared Goff (Super Bowl in year 3, but he’s in year 7 now. Do we know if he’s good or not?)
- Carson Wentz (2nd team All-Pro in year two and the Eagles dubbed him the franchise…but they seemed to have come to regret that).
- Paxton Lynch (Denver figured it out in year 2).

Waiting 3 years seems like more bull poo that will kill the fans of this franchise. 

Edited October 3, 2023 by OUCPFL

[pantherj]

54 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

You gotta chill. You no like Bryce Young. We get it. He’s going to be here a while so I suggest you cope with that 

Ok I'll chill for now, but there are 13 games left to go. If we start getting close to 0-17 there isn't going to be any chill. I'm going to be very un-chill.

[USDepartmentOfSavagery]

This is the roster Fitt built that “we can just drop a qb into”. We are a long ways away from competing folks. Little draft capital and a lot of cap space opening up and our boy Scotty is running the show. We are fuged. 

Edited October 3, 2023 by USDepartmentOfSavagery

[Johnstonny]

25 minutes ago, pantherj said:

Ok I'll chill for now, but there are 13 games left to go. If we start getting close to 0-17 there isn't going to be any chill. I'm going to be very un-chill.

0-17 is a legitimate concern....I've seen some really bad teams that are oh-ferr...and this team has all the markings.

[Johnstonny]

5 minutes ago, USDepartmentOfSavagery said:

This is the roster Fitt built that “we can just drop a qb into”. We are a long ways away from competing folks. Little draft capital and a lot of cap space opening up and our boy Scotty is running the show. We are fuged. 

...My thought last year is if we do most things right we can possibly compete in 2025...but that projection is looking like a pipe dream.

[LinvilleGorge]

6 minutes ago, USDepartmentOfSavagery said:

This is the roster Fitt built that “we can just drop a qb into”. We are a long ways away from competing folks. Little draft capital and a lot of cap space opening up and our boy Scotty is running the show. We are fuged. 

We gotta replace Fitts. There's an opportunity around the corner with our cap situation but if we let him re-fug our cap after he has fuged our draft pick capital we are gonna be truly properly fuged.

[ncfan]

3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

We gotta replace Fitts. There's an opportunity around the corner with our cap situation but if we let him re-fug our cap after he has fuged our draft pick capital we are gonna be truly properly fuged.

And hopefully soon than later.

All these rumors the last week about trading FOR a WR or Safety smells like a desperation move like we saw at the end of Hurney1.0

[Shotgun]

1 hour ago, ncfan said:

We going to forget all the deep shots he was hitting every practice including joint practices to Chark.  This is a personnel and coaching issue sadly

[joemac]

2 hours ago, AceBoogie said:

I was watching the game with Vikings fans and they even got annoyed with us running it up the middle every first down. 

Is it illegal or impossible for us to run a stretch or a toss play or something to get our RB out on the edge?  The offensive play calling is like a 12 year old on Madden.  Just completely bland, uninspired bullshit.  I feel like im watching Jeff Davidson again.  

[joemac]

1 hour ago, OUCPFL said:

I hope not. I'm at the point where I hope they trade him in the offseason. 3 more years will be 8 years of crap ball with consistent 5 win seasons. Yes, I think Bryce is a bust. Yes. I'm done with the experiment. I'm also done watching this team consistently. 

You're seriously drunk or smoking the good poo if you think they are going to attempt to move BY this offseason.  Is this really how our fanbase thinks?

[joemac]

42 minutes ago, Johnstonny said:

0-17 is a legitimate concern....I've seen some really bad teams that are oh-ferr...and this team has all the markings.

Dude we're not going to go 0-17....are yall serious with this poo?  We have been in every single game we've played so far.  Yes we're 0-4, but we have not gotten blown out yet.  A couple breaks our way in any of these games and we win.  Yall have got to settle down. 

[LinvilleGorge]

1 hour ago, OUCPFL said:

I hope not. I'm at the point where I hope they trade him in the offseason. 3 more years will be 8 years of crap ball with consistent 5 win seasons. Yes, I think Bryce is a bust. Yes. I'm done with the experiment. I'm also done watching this team consistently. 

I'm not quite there on the Bryce is a bust train but I'm very close. I just don't see the prerequisite physical talent and the guy already seems mentally and emotionally broken like he realizes he's hit his ceiling given his physical limitations. I mean, it's understandable. What can he do? It doesn't matter how smart you are if you can't physically do it.

[WhoKnows]

32 minutes ago, ncfan said:

And hopefully soon than later.

All these rumors the last week about trading FOR a WR or Safety smells like a desperation move like we saw at the end of Hurney1.0

I’m worried about stupidity like that as well as locking us into a Burns deal that isn’t good for the long term. I don’t really know what to do with Burns now. We screwed up not taking the trade and now we’ve sort of gotten the upper hand that he’s not that guy but he’s not going to give us a discount. We should have just traded him.

A post above has a reporter saying we’ll need to double dip at WR (FA and draft). We’ve taken two second round WRs in the past 3 drafts and signed two FA WRs this year. Fitterer said we were blown away by Mingo pre-draft and yet here we are again. It’s so tough to watch.