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Local writers tip toeing around Jake...

Zod

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Gscottnc5 Newbie

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Woe to the local reporter that says a negative word on Jake. For some odd reason the front office protects him like none other on the team. For instance, a couple of years ago during camp when Carr was here (before we knew how god awful he was) the media was banned from even speaking to Carr. They did not want even the slightest impression that Jake was losing it. Its been like that every year, and the local writers have it beaten into them. Slip up, and bye bye access to the team or perks in the form of exclusive scoops. There is no real local journalism when it comes to the Panthers, only what they want you to read.

Real question here. Could the FO be the reason that Jake was kept in as the started for more games than he should have? I mean, What if John Fox really wanted to pull Jake earlier in the year but was over ruled by the ownership? Could it be that John Fox was pissed off at the FO and basically just said "Fine" lets keep Jake in knowing all along he would fail. Could be a big ole "I told you so from John Fox to Hurney and the Richardsons?

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Real question here. Could the FO be the reason that Jake was kept in as the started for more games than he should have? I mean, What if John Fox really wanted to pull Jake earlier in the year but was over ruled by the ownership? Could it be that John Fox was pissed off at the FO and basically just said "Fine" lets keep Jake in knowing all along he would fail. Could be a big ole "I told you so from John Fox to Hurney and the Richardsons?

No I think most people agree it is the other way around. Fox runs the shots.

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“Fear of the unknown,” was one Panthers player's simple reply when asked why Fox was so slow on the trigger this year.

He was absolutely right.

Sounds like it was not as much blind loyality to Jake that Fox has but rather his extreme conservative nature that led him to stick with a failing QB. And that absolutely sounds like the John Fox we have come to know over the past 4-5 years.

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Real question here. Could the FO be the reason that Jake was kept in as the started for more games than he should have? I mean, What if John Fox really wanted to pull Jake earlier in the year but was over ruled by the ownership? Could it be that John Fox was pissed off at the FO and basically just said "Fine" lets keep Jake in knowing all along he would fail. Could be a big ole "I told you so from John Fox to Hurney and the Richardsons?

This is just one man's opinion, but I genuinely believe that Fox did and/or does still believe in Jake. Even though his interviews are always generic, there is nothing that I've seen from his body language or facial expressions that suggest he is being puppeted into staying with Jake.

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It's why Delhomme should get a chance to hang around to see if he can fix himself. It's also why Moore deserves the benefit of competition.

This part is extremely funny to me. Did we ever give Delhomme the benefit of competition? Fix himself? :lol: "He's only been bad the past 2 seasons...Remember 2003. He's the best QB we ever had. He just picked a bad season to have a bad season. He knows the WHOLE playbook. He is a leader."

The fact is Delhomme has always been an overachieving back-up QB skill wise. Luckily, he had top intangibles such as being clutch when we needed him to be, being a leader, blah blah blah...now, we have a kid who has potential to develop into something more...a true franchise QB. This is why I want Delhomme cut...the QB job should be for Moore to lose next year.

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Gantt has NEVER written anything that acknowledges Jake's struggles without saying "Yeah, but he was good in previous years". He's also been overly critical of Matt Moore. None of this is a surprise. When Moore finally got a chance to start, Gantt immediately pointed out his TD-INT stats from 2007 with no context (3 TDs vs. 5 INTS although most of his INTs were in mop up duty, including one that was a hail mary that Vinny didn't have the arm strength to throw). It's pretty clear there's either some agenda from Gantt himself or from the organization about this topic.

Its called saving face over the moronic extension they gave Jake.

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Well, what's so unreasonable about giving Delhomme a chance to redeem himself? They can do that and still give Matt Moore the chance to win the starting job again next year, and they can still draft another QB for competition if they want to. If Delhomme is still having the same problems, then they can still cut him before the season starts. What's so tragic about this notion?

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Well, what's so unreasonable about giving Delhomme a chance to redeem himself? They can do that and still give Matt Moore the chance to win the starting job again next year, and they can still draft another QB for competition if they want to. If Delhomme is still having the same problems, then they can still cut him before the season starts. What's so tragic about this notion?

Trust me...with Delhomme in the running, there is no fair "chance" of competition.

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Zod Grand Master

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Well, what's so unreasonable about giving Delhomme a chance to redeem himself? They can do that and still give Matt Moore the chance to win the starting job again next year, and they can still draft another QB for competition if they want to. If Delhomme is still having the same problems, then they can still cut him before the season starts. What's so tragic about this notion?

Whats tragic is that some people still cannot see his NFL days are over. He is wasting a roster spot. Buh Bye.

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