This is straight up depressing stuff

[thennek]

3 hours ago, scpanther22 said:

What proof do we have of this?

Not sure if joking but I will provide a few examples: 

1. Tepper “suggested” to Rivera  that the Panthers run a 3-4 defense in 2019. Maybe it is a coincidence that they again are running a 3-4 defense even though they clearly do not have the right players. 

2. Tepper has been very vocal about needing a franchise QB and has been reported to be a part of every major decision around this starting with Stafford, including Watson, and of course Young. It was reported that Tepper did not want to guarantee Watson the amount he was asking. It was reported that Tepper balked at Stafford health and while they were deciding The Rams got him. Both he and wife were very present at the combine which is not normal.

Tepper may have been right on every one of these things but that is not the point. The point is he is involved in these decisions as reported. He claims he lets the football people make decisions but let the Panthers record of 26-54 since he took over be the evidence that he is influential in decisions. Yes I wanted the local guy…Ben Navarro as the new owner so maybe I am jaded. 

 

[SmokinwithWilly]

1 hour ago, SmittysLawnGuy said:

Real question, would you trade Frank Reich and a 5th for Puka Nakua let the rest of the coaches fill in?

Better question. Would they want Frank as part of the trade?

[scpanther22]

49 minutes ago, thennek said:

Not sure if joking but I will provide a few examples: 

1. Tepper “suggested” to Rivera  that the Panthers run a 3-4 defense in 2019. Maybe it is a coincidence that they again are running a 3-4 defense even though they clearly do not have the right players. 

2. Tepper has been very vocal about needing a franchise QB and has been reported to be a part of every major decision around this starting with Stafford, including Watson, and of course Young. It was reported that Tepper did not want to guarantee Watson the amount he was asking. It was reported that Tepper balked at Stafford health and while they were deciding The Rams got him. Both he and wife were very present at the combine which is not normal.

Tepper may have been right on every one of these things but that is not the point. The point is he is involved in these decisions as reported. He claims he lets the football people make decisions but let the Panthers record of 26-54 since he took over be the evidence that he is influential in decisions. Yes I wanted the local guy…Ben Navarro as the new owner so maybe I am jaded. 

 

I think Tepper has made bad choices and people want a scapegoat to blame everything on..when everyone in the FO hold blame

People want one convenient person to blame everything on when its been a systemic failure that starts with him but is not only just him

[SmokinwithWilly]

4 hours ago, scpanther22 said:

I think Tepper has made bad choices and people want a scapegoat to blame everything on..when everyone in the FO hold blame

People want one convenient person to blame everything on when its been a systemic failure that starts with him but is not only just him

It starts and ends with him because he's the one acting as team president. This is his FO. He's made the hiring and firing decisions without the benefit of having experience in the operations of a football team. He got taken by Hurney. He got taken by Rhule. He got taken by Fitts and right now it doesn't look promising for Reich. He's been involved in pushing for players he wanted, much like Snyder did. His wife is on the phone making a trade during the draft. He took out the grass field so he could install turf and use the stadium for concerts and soccer despite what the players of his team want and the studies have shown regarding injury. 

People are blaming Tepper because his fingerprints are all over this sloppy mess and it looks like one big shitshow because that's what it is. 

[DIO84]

And this is why I will blame nothing on head coaches or gms until that douche sells the team.

[Xtreme]

I would not be surprised if Tepper fires Reich after one season. 

[TeppersEgos]

2 hours ago, Xtreme said:

I would not be surprised if Tepper fires Reich after one season. 

That moron will not fire Reich for at least 2 seasons. He will probably fire him after 5 games into the 3rd season after we start 0-5 for the third straight year under Reich.

[Xtreme]

41 minutes ago, TeppersEgos said:

That moron will not fire Reich for at least 2 seasons. He will probably fire him after 5 games into the 3rd season after we start 0-5 for the third straight year under Reich.

That wouldn't surprise me either, but fans are getting restless after years of terrible outcomes. If Tepper wants to keep fan support for this team, then doing something drastic may be in-order. 

[hepcat]

15 hours ago, Varking said:

We were never a good franchise. But now we are just a bad franchise lol. He should luck into a couple winning seasons in a row and then sell the team. 

Before Tepper bought the team, the Panthers were a hot and cold franchise with two Super Bowl appearances and hovering around .500 historically, which for an expansion franchise compared to their other expansion franchise peers is wildly successful. Go look at the history of the Bucs, Saints, and Falcons when they entered the NFL.

Tepper took a .500 team and made it a .250 team. I am fairly confident nothing he will do will result in success at this point. 

[GhostWhispah]

23 hours ago, Xtreme said:

I would not be surprised if Tepper fires Reich after one season. 

Why would he fires the greatest backup QB in the NFL, who happens to be our very first QB when this franchise was inaugurated. Solid hire for once imho.

https://www.quora.com/Who-is-the-best-backup-quarterback-in-NFL-History