So ESPN thinks we'll trade DWill for a high first round pick

[grateflday]

If the Panthers trade D.Will for a first round pick I will be PISSED!!!! That would only compound the mistake made by Fox/Hurney.

[tyghtt05]

I cannot believe some of you r tryin to compare Stu to DWill. It's not a question who is better and a lot of you guys are talkin as if DWill cannot carry the load. DWill is a game breaker and runs harder then Stu. Stu does toooo much east and west running to be as big as he is. Thats the difference between him and DWill. I honestly love em' both but if we have to get rid of one its Stu no question in my book. So... what I'm sayin is sry to some of you on this board who actually think a unproven 1st Round Pick is worth DWill cuz I dont think so. I just think some of you want Carolina to have a 1st round pick so you won't be bored on draft day.

[Spike]

I think we should trade one. We obviously don't need them both, as we can find talent with guys like Sutton and Goodson. We can surely find more that can help split the load with the one we decide to keep.

Drafting and developing running backs is clearly not a problem for this FO/Coaching staff, and we should take advantage of it.

Think Champ Bailey for Clinton Portis. Denver knew it could churn out RB's like no tomorrow, but it couldn't get a good CB to save it's life.

They need a top flight QB. If you can get another 2nd for Peppers, you take a top level QB in the 1st, Arrelious Benn and Ryan Matthews(to replace DeAngelo) in the 2nd.

People are putting way too much faith in Tyrell Sutton, a guy who went undrafted, was cut by the Packers, and has a grand total of 12 carries.

[Snake]

Has anyone got a link to this story?

[Kurb]

bad idea

[Jangler]

Has anyone got a link to this story?

[chbright]

i want james starks if we did this. a 210+, 6' 2" monster that has wheels. i think he will be back for the combine, and will tare it up. another intresting one is ben tate. mathews is intresting as well. cooper could come out (what a speedster there he is). i dont expect to find anyone on dwills level as a rookie, but he didnt burst onto the seen until last year.

dwill is not irreplacable, we are not going to improve at rb over him right now. thats not the question, the question is can we improve the team with a guy like suh, bradford, or clausen with stewie as the RB. i think its a no brainer, you will improve the team as a whole if you get a top qb or the best DT to come out in over a decade. we dont have a true stud dt, or a stud qb that dwill could net us. we do have a very good rb stable even if its goodson, sutton (i wanted him after his frosh season), and stewie (and draft starks dammit!). is it as good as it is now, of course not, but this is a move to improve the entire team. unless we get a dominating defense or a good qb, we are not going anywhere with or without dwill. this year should show that. we need a qb that can do more than just manage a game. personally idk if i trust claussen or bradford year 1 to completely turn us around. i would look hard at guys like hassellbach and bulger as guys to trade for if you want to fix the interior line, find a #2 wr, and make your run next year (assuming pep stays).

if you want to start blowing the team up, all the more reason to dangle a rb as trade bait if you want to put all your eggs in the claussen/mallett/bradford basket and hope the qb you pick turns into a 10+ year top line starter. dwill wont last forever, if you can get a top 5 qb on the team for 10+ years, you move the rb. odds dwill has that may years left are slim. then again qbs are boom bust types, so its a crap shoot that hurney, fox, and richardson have to be willing to make.

having a beavy of depth to use in a trade is a good thing. the pats just showed why a surplus is great, they traded seymor for a 1st thats gona net them a top 10 pick and will be able to sign wilfork now (they couldnt keep both). while seymor would undoubtably help that team, they are going to be able to get a great young player to stick in that defense (lb crew outside mayo is is getting old really quick). they still have wilfork to anchor that defense, and could likely draft a younger version this year (wootton).

i would be sad to see the best rb the panthers have had so far moved, but if we could land a qb that turned into a year in, year out, top 5 guy, i do it. the upgrade at qb >>>>>> regression at rb from making the move. our qb situation is poo, or dt situation is not too much better.

[tjmurray]

i want james starks if we did this. a 210+, 6' 2" monster that has wheels. i think he will be back for the combine, and will tare it up. another intresting one is ben tate. mathews is intresting as well. cooper could come out (what a speedster there he is). i dont expect to find anyone on dwills level as a rookie, but he didnt burst onto the seen until last year.

dwill is not irreplacable, we are not going to improve at rb over him right now. thats not the question, the question is can we improve the team with a guy like suh, bradford, or clausen with stewie as the RB. i think its a no brainer, you will improve the team as a whole if you get a top qb or the best DT to come out in over a decade. we dont have a true stud dt, or a stud qb that dwill could net us. we do have a very good rb stable even if its goodson, sutton (i wanted him after his frosh season), and stewie (and draft starks dammit!). is it as good as it is now, of course not, but this is a move to improve the entire team. unless we get a dominating defense or a good qb, we are not going anywhere with or without dwill. this year should show that. we need a qb that can do more than just manage a game. personally idk if i trust claussen or bradford year 1 to completely turn us around. i would look hard at guys like hassellbach and bulger as guys to trade for if you want to fix the interior line, find a #2 wr, and make your run next year (assuming pep stays).

if you want to start blowing the team up, all the more reason to dangle a rb as trade bait if you want to put all your eggs in the claussen/mallett/bradford basket and hope the qb you pick turns into a 10+ year top line starter. dwill wont last forever, if you can get a top 5 qb on the team for 10+ years, you move the rb. odds dwill has that may years left are slim. then again qbs are boom bust types, so its a crap shoot that hurney, fox, and richardson have to be willing to make.

having a beavy of depth to use in a trade is a good thing. the pats just showed why a surplus is great, they traded seymor for a 1st thats gona net them a top 10 pick and will be able to sign wilfork now (they couldnt keep both). while seymor would undoubtably help that team, they are going to be able to get a great young player to stick in that defense (lb crew outside mayo is is getting old really quick). they still have wilfork to anchor that defense, and could likely draft a younger version this year (wootton).

i would be sad to see the best rb the panthers have had so far moved, but if we could land a qb that turned into a year in, year out, top 5 guy, i do it. the upgrade at qb >>>>>> regression at rb from making the move. our qb situation is poo, or dt situation is not too much better.

That was a fantastic post. As some of you may know I love DeAngelo Williams. Just like everybody else who lives in Memphis. It is really cool to see many fans get irate about the topic of trading him. That means many Panther fans have fell in love with him as a player and most importantly as a human. This day, or the day they will eventually trade Deangelo was coming a long time ago. When they drafted Jonathan Stewart with the 14th pick, Deangelo days were numbered. What threw a monkey wrench into the big scheme was Deangelo breaking out last year. Nobody in that orginization knew he could be this good. You don't draft a player who has Bo Jackson or Herchel Walker type gifts(Jonathan Stewart) if you believed that DeAngelo was a feature type of back. Unfortuanately Fox gave up on DeAngelo before he really ever got a chance to shine. I said it before, and I will say it again. The way Deangelo Wiliiams was handled his 2nd year in the league was criminal. It was a total waste of talent. Foster had no business being the workhorse that year. So instead of featuring Williams and seeing what he has to offer they drafted a special talent over him, without truly finding out what DeAngelo could do. The same thing has happened at qb this year. They may have a nice qb in Matt Moore, but he will never get a chance in Carolina, because they stuck with Dellhomme so long that that they don't have a good amount of games to judge Moore on. They will bring in another qb and Moore may possibly be the game manager Fox wanted. What if Moore goes out and play the same way the last 2 games the way he did last week? Then what? John Fox should be fired on that reason alone. But the one thing that many of you guys aren't realizing is that I truly believe that DeAngelo Williams doesn't want to re-sign there.

When he was at Memphis he was very competitive, and never wanted to come out of the game. I know it is eating him alive that he is splitting carries. I know it is eating him alive that he came into camp this year even better than he did last year, and still lost touches/carries to Stewart. DeAngelo says one thing, but his agent comes on a local radio show( http://www.sports56whbq.com/ )in Memphis saying another. When his agent(Jimmy Sexton) was asked earlier this year why DeAngelo didn't sign an extension ala M. Jones-Drew, his comment was something to the effect of "we want to see what his role will be on the team in the future." Lol, that comment told me all I needed to know. He doesn't want to be in Charlotte splitting carries. People assume that he will play next year on the final year of that contract. He will be traded this offseason, and it will be because he wanted to be traded. Stewart is too good to be sitting on the bench splitting carries, and so is DeAngelo.

Don't know the exact number of yards, but Stewart had 14 carries for like 30 something yards last week against Minnesotta. But he was featured and got the ball and eventually he found running lanes and started running over mothaf**ka's. Normally he wouldn't have gotten that amount of carries, but he got better as the game went along. DeAngelo is that same type of back. Although he doesn't use power, he gets better as the game goes if he is featured, and he hast never truly been featured in Carolina. There were games where he could have threatened 300 yards if he was featured... So both of their talents are being wasted. I know it has to bother Stewart to see a back that was drafted out of his class rush for 2000 yards and he has yet to see a 1000 yards. I know it eats at Deangelo he is the only starting back from his draft class that never have never been featured. To know that no matter how well he plays he will never be "the guy".

In Memphis we have a saying, or people who followed DeAngelo's college career. The only person that can stop Deangelo Williams is John Fox. DeAngelo had the same type of season last year Chris Johnson is having this year. The big difference is that he is the guy in Nashville and is being featured, and DeAngelo is just a bridge to Jonathan Stewart. So while many of you Deangelo fans in Charlotte believe that it is sacriligious to think of Deangelo in another uniform, many of his fans here in Memphis always thought that this was his last year in Charlotte anyway. This is Drew Brees and Phillip Rivers. Drew Brees was pretty good in San Diego, but he became a star and a hall of famer elsewhere. San Diego wasn't hurt because they had an all pro waiting in the wings. Deangelo was pretty good In Charlotte the past 2 years, but he hasn't scratched the surface. He will become a monster player on another team. If Marshall Faulk can be traded, so can DeAngelo. Stewart is a 1500 yard back and he is waiting in the wings. He is ready. It is time for him to play ball.

Number28(the biggest Deangelo hater of all) said on this topic that he is looking forward to seeing what Jonathan Stewart can do while carrying the full load. Yea, I kind of feel the same way about DeAngelo Williams... He is a 2000 yard back on another team. DeAngelo has to decide if he wants to be great or just another good back who splits carries. He is saying all the right things publicly, but he wants to be great and he can't do that coming out of the game half of the time and leaving plays on the field. When DeAngelo didn't want to sign a long term deal this offseason that should have told you all you needed to know about his intentions.

[KBRed]

So, if you can understand D. Will's public language, why can't the Panthers. It seems if this is the case, they would trade Jonathan Stewart, although he wouldn't get as good of a trade value.

[Gazi]

So, if you can understand D. Will's public language, why can't the Panthers. It seems if this is the case, they would trade Jonathan Stewart, although he wouldn't get as good of a trade value.

I think Panthers are understanding it and they will trade him this offseason. Last Sunday may have been the last time we've seen him in Panthers uniform.

[KBRed]

Well, unlike last offseason, we sure are going to have a wild one this year.

[beastson]

Wild... that word doesn't describe what is about to happen

And if nothing happens, its still going to be off the chainnsss cause something has to happen

[AKPantherFan]

i will be more than PISSED off if we trade Williams.

Fox has always held him back, all he has done is carry this team for 2 seasons, and then they want to trade him...

BULLSHIT...

I hope fox and Hurney get fired, cause there is no damn way the new guy would can Williams.

Williams has HOF ability, they just have to let him lose.

[AceMan]

John Fox stays

Jake Delhomme stays

D.Will gets traded

All are a strong possibility this offseason...WTF?!