Young Won the Job at the Pro Day Dinner

[therealmjl]

3 minutes ago, Buckeye Homer said:

It's definitely on the coaches to develop Bryce and to create an offensive game plan that he can execute.  Sometimes offensive coordinators want a QB to run his system rather than basing the system on the abilities of his QB, right?  

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. People can slam Bryce all they want, but at the end of the day we have a franchise level issues starting with the Teppers, goes down to that joke of a GM Fitterer and makes its way down to this entire coaching staff who is highly overrated.

Edited September 26, 2023 by therealmjl

[mc52beast]

Two freaking games(three for Stroud) and the Huddle experts have already concluded that Bryce is a bust and CJ is a future HOFer. 
 

Maybe we should take the yellow jackets back from every single first round QB who played like dog poop their first season and then went on to ball out.

[Saca312]

6 minutes ago, therealmjl said:

Even if we picked CJ he would suck here. It's not a Bryce problem, it's an organizational problem.

^This.

Y'all acting like the Texans wouldn't have pounced on Young if they had the #1 pick. He was the consensus top pick across the NFL, and it wasn't even close.

Yes, Young is having a slower start due to the WRs having minimal ability to separate. The Texans WRs, while no world beaters, do separate much better.

Development takes time. Young isn't perfect off the gate, and that's fine. Likely he will improve as the season goes on.

The team may suck and be 2010 levels bad, but the goal is to see Young improve through that. He isn't the problem. Stroud/Richardson would also be bad with this team, as unfortunately Reich can't call a good game + WRs separation ability/o-line philosophy doesn't mix well with the offensive game.

[Waldo]

1 minute ago, tukafan21 said:

I'm quite confident in saying the overwhelming majority of owners in this league are in all of those meetings as well.

I'm sure some owners aren't, like Ford in Detroit or McNair in Houston, I don't see the 70+ year old women who inherited the team when their husbands died to be in those rooms, but I guarantee someone else in the ownership family is, such as Cal McNair would be instead.

He is acting a lot more like the owners that meddle. Plenty of flags out there. 

You sound desperate and your case does not hold up under scrutiny. Tepper has been apart of every process every year. He was learning from them his first year. He was buddies with Rhule his first year. And he was still going on serious scouting visits when they still had him coming in for a personal visit where it's much more likely to meet owners at their house and such right?

It's like some of yall did not experience JRs pr years. He was such a fair, kind and respectful gentleman because they told me so and he looked it. LOL

[ncfan]

19 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

Oh yeah Tepper looks so excited here

 

 

[therealmjl]

Just now, Buckeye Homer said:

Bryce is going to be good.  You knew this year would be a development year for Bryce and that Carolina wasn't winning a Super Bowl this season.  Carolina, just like everybody else, will need to build this team by making good draft picks and acquiring key players via free agency.  

And this is the problem...we do not have the front office in place to do this.

[LinvilleGorge]

14 minutes ago, Waldo said:

Holy crap when hasn't Tepper been involved with the process? WTF are yall talking about. He is always in the room. Draft, scouting trips, meatballs. He doesn't look like a Jerry trying to be a GM but he sure is on hand anytime something goes down. That doesn't take away form the rest of the crew doing their thing. He is always there and crap always ends up the same seems to be the consistent things going on since he bought the team. 

I was really hoping that Tepper was going to occupy himself with the business side of the house.

[Towelboy]

I’m a frustrated fan. I dislike the owner - mostly stemming from his arrogance, botched deal with Rock Hill, and reluctance to put grass back in BOA. I dislike the GM because he consistently trades away future assets for mediocre players. I dislike the coach because his gameplan is dated and wont relinquish play calling duties to the up and coming OC. I dislike the QB because he seems lost, lacks confidence, and has average arm strength. I question if there is a clear direction for this team and unfortunately see another few years of bad football in Carolina. This team is consistently inconsistent. This year is ugly and I’m not sure when it will turn around. 

[ncfan]

5 minutes ago, Saca312 said:

^This.

Y'all acting like the Texans wouldn't have pounced on Young if they had the #1 pick. He was the consensus top pick across the NFL, and it wasn't even close.

Yes, Young is having a slower start due to the WRs having minimal ability to separate. The Texans WRs, while no world beaters, do separate much better.

Development takes time. Young isn't perfect off the gate, and that's fine. Likely he will improve as the season goes on.

The team may suck and be 2010 levels bad, but the goal is to see Young improve through that. He isn't the problem. Stroud/Richardson would also be bad with this team, as unfortunately Reich can't call a good game + WRs separation ability/o-line philosophy doesn't mix well with the offensive game.

Imagine if role were reversed and Young was in Houston and Stroud here

 

 

 

its be the same crap.

we’d be saying “we should’ve taken Bryce”. 

“Why did this stupid front office pick a QB that’s bad under pressure behind this crappy OL”

[Waldo]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

I was really hoping that Tepper was going to occupy himself with the business side of the house.

Too busy making deals but after the SC fiasco it's obvious where his attention is focused. 

The other hint is that he keeps hiring people he likes and not people that do a better job. 

And he is training Nicole in his ways...

[CPF4LIFE]

6 minutes ago, Buckeye Homer said:

I wanted Carolina to draft CJ but I DO believe that Houston was a better landing spot for CJ for a variety of reasons, one being that they do actually have talented WR's.  

Lmaooooo 

[SmokinwithWilly]

 

1 minute ago, tukafan21 said:

First of all, all the other teams weren't sitting quiet, there were multiple teams trying to trade for him.

Second, if it really was Tepper's call and he was the one forcing it, he'd have agreed to the fully guaranteed deal and made sure the deal got done.

 

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/panthers-moving-on-from-nfl-trade-deadline-interest-in-deshaun-watson-sources-say/

"Panthers executive Steven Drummond is very close with Texans top exec Jack Easterby, the Texans would prefer to ship Watson to the NFC, all things being equal, and Tepper's motivation to land Watson should not be overlooked. He has made it clear throughout his organization for some time that he covets the Texans' franchise QB."

https://nfltraderumors.co/panthers-owner-david-tepper-reportedly-highly-motivated-to-land-deshaun-watson/

"According to Jason La Canfora, Panthers owner David Tepper is consumed by the prospect of landing Texans QB Deshaun Watson if and when Houston makes him available via trade."

https://catcrave.com/2021/02/18/deshaun-watson-david-tepper-final-say/

However, the influence of David Tepper cannot be understated. The team owner has been bold with his moves since buying the franchise from Jerry Richardson and if the billionaire has any say in the matter, Watson will be on the Panthers next season.

Doesn't sound at all like an owner that's not heavily involved in the process, now does it? 

[Towelboy]

6 minutes ago, Buckeye Homer said:

Carolina, just like everybody else, will need to build this team by making good draft picks and acquiring key players via free agency. 

With what picks? We have to overspend to get players because veterans want to be part of consistent winners. We’ve never had back to back winning seasons. Ever. Carolina is where free agents get a chance to play or ride out for retirement. We are not a destination. 

[CPF4LIFE]

You cant name one person or source that was calling the texans wr core talented coming into the season. It was people on this very forum saying stroud would struggle this year because he had no talent around him compared to ohio state. Its the biggest horse poo talking point going on right now.