PFF grades after week 3 (not for the faint of heart)

[Cuttinedge]

Throckmorten has been a pleasant surprise. But it took Mayes playing like crap for this staff to put him in. And Jensen can’t be any worse than Zalata can he ? 

[RevJ]

How does Zavala, (or anyboby for that matter), get a goose egg for pass blocking? You'd havde to think that a palyer would eventually accidentally get in the way of a rusher for a play or two a game.

[Cdparr7]

24 minutes ago, RevJ said:

How does Zavala, (or anyboby for that matter), get a goose egg for pass blocking? You'd havde to think that a palyer would eventually accidentally get in the way of a rusher for a play or two a game.

PFF has a weird formula. If I remember right the score is the net of negative plays and positive plays combined added from zero. So it’s not grading you like a math quiz, it’s how many positives vs negatives and then some other X and Y factors to get the score. 
 

Basically he did little to no good with very capable match ups and conditions and it was so one sided he couldn’t push the formula to a positive number.

[Cdparr7]

32 minutes ago, RevJ said:

How does Zavala, (or anyboby for that matter), get a goose egg for pass blocking? You'd havde to think that a palyer would eventually accidentally get in the way of a rusher for a play or two a game.

found it

https://www.pff.com/news/pff-fc-all-you-need-to-know-about-how-grades-are-calculated#:~:text=Play-by-play grading,-PFF grades each&text=Unlike traditional data%2C PFF measures,players while avoiding player hype.
 

Edited September 26, 2023 by Cdparr7

[Carolina Cajun]

1 hour ago, Jetty said:

I hate to break it to you but fans don't want to see Young at least reasonable fans who realize Bryce is most likely a bust

LOLwut?  No way you're being serious.  As I've said, its too soon to call Bryce a bust, its also too early to say he'll be fine, but its an unknown after 2 friggen games.  That said, no one, not even Andy Daltons mother have ever said they want to see Andy Dalton play QB right now.  Dalton is on his last leg in the NFL and offers absolutely nothing to us for future hope regardless of how he does.  Since we suck, we need to play young players and see if there's any hope for the future with them.

[Varking]

2 minutes ago, Carolina Cajun said:

That said, no one, not even Andy Daltons mother have ever said they want to see Andy Dalton play QB right now.  

Isn’t there a thread of folks saying start Dalton the rest of the year?

[Navy_football]

7 hours ago, Cdparr7 said:

We match up well against the Vikings on paper. Seeing which way they go with his "injury" will say a lot about the direction the coaching staff is going with him.

Ummm... the Vikings are gonna score 50 

[CPF4LIFE]

5 hours ago, ForJimmy said:

The fans don't want to see Dalton.  The best thing for Young is to get experience.  If he is healthy he needs to play against a bad defense at home.  That's what the season is about.  

I want to see wins and touchdowns, dont care who the QB is. 

[Carolina Cajun]

16 minutes ago, Varking said:

Isn’t there a thread of folks saying start Dalton the rest of the year?

Didnt even think but yea, you're right.  Its a terrible Idea there too, Ive seen the thread and presumed it was everyone just saying how bad of an idea that is.  Fact is we need to see how our young players are, we're not winning now and its obvious, so we need to see if theres ANY future with the team with our young players.

[Cdparr7]

41 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

Ummm... the Vikings are gonna score 50 

I don’t think so. The betting line is going to be pretty accurate in this one I think. Been looking at the Vikings all day, they literally only have the Cousins to Jefferson connection which will be 3/4 of their yards. The OL is like ours and the run game isn’t there. 
 

Their defense isn’t there at all. If Dalton plays it’s close. I expect a 27-24 or 31-27 type game.

If Bryce and his 20 flat routes show up it could get ugly. 

Edited September 26, 2023 by Cdparr7

[Carl Spackler]

So to recap:

Howell doesn’t suck because even though he threw four picks, he was under constant pressure so it’s not his fault

Young sucks because even though he didn’t throw any picks, he was under constant pressure so it’s his fault 

[Carl Spackler]

A mod blaming an injured rookie QB for a rookie WR dropping a pass was probably Peak Huddle to me 

[Carl Spackler]

Tbh I look forward to Bryce Young “I Did That” stickers at gas pumps by week 7

Meanwhile I mean, Howell’s only in his second year, need to be patient with him. And he’s getting pressured a lot, so you can’t see how good he is 

[Stuart Smith]

8 hours ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

I'm going to give Ikcey a break since he's having to try and pickup some slack from Zavala filling in at LG - and is coming off his worst game of the year by far - but it is disappointing. His PFF grade was like 20 points higher on the year after the Saints game, IIRC.

It's a reminder that, despite playing well overall last year, Ickey is still a young player with developing left to do.

I am not sure if we realized how much missing the starting guards would set this team back. This line was put together as more to run block than pass block. That was one big change from last year. The Offensive tackles have probably been affected by trying to compensate for ineffective guard play as well.