Marty Hurney, Dave Gettleman, Scott Fitterer

[DeAngelo Beason]

Hurley drafted all of the best players in franchise history.  Nuff said. 

[LinvilleGorge]

6 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

I agree with what @pantherj said regarding him being ruthless. I wanted that. I wanted a GM to come in and play hardball so we wouldn't overpay someone like Williams, Anderson, or Johnson again. He took it too far though. Even if I do believe it was the right decision, the way he unceremoniously cut Smitty sucked. The Norman thing was just, so egregiously mishandled. Playing hardball was fine, and it was obvious that Norman was elevated by the system and players surrounding him so I had no problem not giving him the contract he eventually got in DC, but to cut him outright with zero compensation? Unnecessary and dumb. 

That whole Norman fiasco just gutted the locker room and forced Gettleman to spend half a draft class just trying to patch together a secondary that was held together by Norman. All because he got butthurt and threw a hissy fit and needed to show somebody who's boss.

[Towelboy]

And to think, we could have had Brandon Beane. 

[The Natural]

8 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

And built sh-tty losing teams around them.

You don't get graded on only your first round picks . You get graded on full teams. Marty built a steady stream of losers...which of course is why we kept getting high first round picks.

2003, 2005 and 2008 were all SB caliber teams. Not saying Hurney was a great GM overall but you are really glossing over the fact he was the architect behind a very solid run in the mid- 2000's. You could also make the argument that the 2015 team was a Hurney product given the vast majority of star players were brought in by him.

[The Natural]

Hurney, for the moment, is the biggest fish in a very small pond. Any way you try to slice it Gettleman was a disaster. He wasn't great in the draft, he was terrible in FA and had a penchant of running off our best players. The early returns on Fitterer aren't great but it's still early enough he could turn it around and overtake the top spot.

[Mr. Scot]

9 hours ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

True but we got a lot of mileage out of his only skill.

Three winning seasons out of fifteen is "a lot of mileage"?

[Carl Spackler]

27 minutes ago, Towelboy said:

And to think, we could have had Brandon Beane. 

Be saying that about Morgan if he’s not named GM by this time next year. 

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, Ricky Spanish said:

Fitt is still incomplete but he's starting to look like the worst of the bunch.

You're smarter than this, dude.

[Growl]

Gettleman disassembled a Super Bowl roster in the middle of a window and never meaningfully sought to bolster it. Hard to do worse than that.

Edited September 21, 2023 by Growl

[LinvilleGorge]

17 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

You're smarter than this, dude.

Where's the evidence to the contrary? Hurney sucked but we did have some sporadic success with him. We haven't accomplished poo so far with Fitts. Real NFL coaching was supposed to unlock the talent on this roster. Through two games it basically just looks like an extension of the Rhule era.

[KSpan]

11 hours ago, frankw said:

The fact that anyone voted for Fitt with his zero winning seasons is hysterical.

On top of that, it's really impossible to know just how much he was actually responsible for prior to Rhule's departure. I'm of the opinion that he did little in 2021 but was in a much more prominent role for 2022, and is now a traditional GM with all such accoutability.

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Through two games

This is why.

[LinvilleGorge]

49 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

This is why.

You're hoping. There is no actual evidence to the contrary.

[Mr. Scot]

11 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

You're hoping. There is no actual evidence to the contrary.

There's no actual evidence...period.

There's plenty of panic, whining, unwillingness to look beyond the surface and people trying to position themselves so that they can later claim they were right all along, but none of that counts as "evidence".

Again, talk to me down the road when there's way more substantial tape to review. If it's bad then, it's bad. If it's good then, it's good.

If (my personal guess) it's not good yet but it's at least better than what we've seen early, then it's progress.